Usor:Laura1822

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Intro[recensere]

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Laura1822 my page at English Wikisource


I am interested in works of and about the Roman Catholic Church and its liturgies, teachings, and practices. There doesn't even seem to be a portal or project here for such things. I am more active on English Wikisource and Commons.


I took three years of Latin in high school, and have spent my whole life singing music and chant written for the Church.

Ideas[recensere]

I was thinking of uploading the 1952 Raccolta here. It is on archive.org. It has no copyright notice, and from my research I think it is public domain. It has prayers in Latin, Italian, and French, but no translations. I thought that it should not be on English Wikisource since there is no English in in the book.


Also the old breviary. Very much needed. Must locate a legible copy.


Update September 2023[recensere]

I found two copies of Salicetus's Antidotarius Anime at archive.org. I found another printing at the National Library of France (BNF) (1491, Strasbourg) which is much easier to read: it has better punctuation, spacing, and few abbreviations. It also has nice woodcuts surrounding the text on every page, and the page images are very clear.

I was looking for a complete copy of the "original" prayer from which the Memorare is taken. According to https://www.preces-latinae.org/thesaurus/BVM/Memorare.html (and the many internet sites, including Wikipedia [Memorare], which copy it, often without attribution), the Antidotarius Anime (1489) is the first printed source of this prayer, though the prayer we know as the Memorare is an extract from a longer, earlier printed prayer. (This comes from a 20th-century book on the origins of familiar prayers which quotes part, but not all, of Salicetus's version of the prayer.) Although there were many printings of the book in many places during the last decade of the fifteenth century (and several in the next), some of them omit this prayer. There are two copies at a university in Germany (cited in the German Wikipedia article on the Memorare), neither of which include it. I found the French (Strasbourg 1491) version via the French Wikipedia article on the Memorare (which is the most complete of those I looked at, well done).

(N.B. These sources include a reference to the "15th century" Hortulus Animae including the prayer, with the earliest edition according to WP was printed in 1498. Early editions such as 1503 refer to both the "Memorare" and the "Ad sanctitatis tuae pedes" by these titles along with others such as the "Stabat Mater" to suggest praying them with other prayers that are referenced elsewhere in the book. But these were not printed in the book. This suggests that the prayers were well-known by these titles by 1503 and probably 1498. Some copies, famous for their woodcuts, seem to have been printed in the vernacular. Still looking.)

This prayer, which begins "Ad sanctitatis tuae pedes," contains several other phrases and ideas from the Sub tuum, Salve Regina, and Ave Maria. The Memorare is (mostly) an excerpt from it. The prayer is longer, containing in the latter part a litany-like address comprising "Noli" followed by various of Mary's titles, such as "Stella maris." It may therefore be an important source for study.

Another noteworthy point is that the early editions of the "Ad sanctitatis tuae pedes" lack the plea "Noli, Mater Verbi, mea despicere verba, sed audi propitia et exaudi oris mei verba." It should come between the addresses "Noli, Virgo Immaculata" and "Noli, mater omnium." I am searching for it in any book. The earliest I have found so far is a 1538 prayer book Oraria Ad Usvm Diocesis Monasteriensis (on GB, from the Bavarian State Library). (This book is comparatively short, very clear images, and may be a better candidate for a first project here.) I also found the phrase explicitly in the Memorare itself in a 1548 edition of the "Hours in praise of the BVM," presumably the Little Office, which I must study.

(Still looking for the earliest appearance of the Memorare as well as its earlier source, Ad sanctitatis tuae pedes, as well as the earliest inclusion of "Noli, Mater Verbi" in the latter.)

I also found the prayer in another book by Salicetus entitled "Liber meditationum" dated 1490 (at IA). It appears to be within the same set of prayers found in the Antidotarius Anime. It may be the same work under a different title, but I haven't examined the books closely side by side yet. It includes a Table of Contents, and (similar to the others mentioned) has page numbers (in Roman numerals, of course, though the TOC uses Arabic numerals), but on every other page rather than the modern practice of every page.

Salicetus's Antidotarius Anime contains many prayers. One of the editions at archive.org is combined with other works by Salicetus, including meditations, confessions, etc. There are no doubt lost gems within it which would be useful if more accessible.

Since it is a book of prayers printed entirely in Latin, I thought it would be a good candidate for a project here. Now to find the time and energy. I will try to upload the Strasbourg 1491 edition to Commons soon.

Summary[recensere]

  • 1489 Antidotarius Anime (copy online not yet discovered, earliest being 1490)
  • 1490 Liber meditationum (earliest copy online, unknown if earlier books exist)

Both of the above being purportedly the first printing of the prayer "Ad sanctitatis tuae pedes," but neither they nor any subsequent printings through 1548 includes the "Noli, Mater Verbi" petition.

  • 1495 Arra aeternae salutis includes text of "Ad sanctitatis tuae pedes" prayer, which also includes "Noli, Mater Verbi" petition (prayer book including prayers for mass, prayers for Offices of the Passion and of the BVM, and prayers to saints in the calendar, including collects, 187 pages) (earliest printing found so far) copy at GB copy at IA (Now on Commons, see below)
  • 1503, 1507, 1511, 1519, and 1540 editions of the Hortulus Animae (and perhaps 1498) refer to "Memorare" and "Ad sanctitatis tuae pedes," by these titles but do not include the texts.
  • 1533 Hortulus Animae includes text of "Ad sanctitatis tuae pedes" prayer, which also includes "Noli, Mater Verbi" petition copy at GB
  • 1538 "Ad sanctitatis tuae pedes" prayer includes "Noli, Mater Verbi" in book Oraria ad usum Diocesis Monasteriensis copy at GB
  • 1548 Memorare printed in Horae in laudem Beatissimae Virginis Mariae, ad usum Romanum (Little Office, presumably) on separate page, not as part of liturgy

Works here[recensere]

Works on Commons but lacking Index or Project page here[recensere]

See: Category: Latin-language Roman Catholic prayer books at Commons

Works not yet Commons[recensere]

  • 1952 Raccolta on IA in Latin, with some individual prayers in their original languages, i.e., Italian and French (and others?), (PD according to WP and Commons rules and tags)
  • Antidotarius Anime (1490) on IA (but included in Meditations book above)
  • Liber Meditations, etc. (1517 Venice) at Britsh Library and at GB (appears to be the same edition as the one on IA, but different copy) (NB: BL interface high res)
  • Liber Meditations, etc. (1518 Paris) at Britsh Library
  • GB appears to have several copies of both Liber Meditations and Liber Meditations.

Works to search for[recensere]

  • old breviary (Latin and Latin-English)

See: Breviarium (PL 086), which is part of Patrologia Latina/86 (1844); however, it is copy/pasted text from elsewhere. Scan-backed late edition needed.

  • Nice 1898 complete (Latin) set at IA: breviariumro011898cath, breviariumromanu21898cath, breviariumro031898cath, breviariumromanu18984cath
    • there are a few later volumes at IA (some quite nice) but no later complete set
  • Bute's editions are entirely in English (and, though explicitly Roman Catholic, lack imprimatur)
  • Some editions are expressly for monastic or conventual use