Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera VIII

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These are archives of the Scriptorium for 2012-2014. Discussions are archived according to the date they last had activity and are only archived after they have lost relevance to the community

Open Call for 2012 Wikimedia Fellowship Applicants[recensere]

Disputatio conclusa : Deadline passed.

I apologize that you are receiving this message in English. Please help translate it.

  • Do you want to help attract new contributors to Wikimedia projects?
  • Do you want to improve retention of our existing editors?
  • Do you want to strengthen our community by diversifying its base and increasing the overall number of excellent participants around the world?

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking Community Fellows and project ideas for the Community Fellowship Program. A Fellowship is a temporary position at the Wikimedia Foundation in order to work on a specific project or set of projects. Submissions for 2012 are encouraged to focus on the theme of improving editor retention and increasing participation in Wikimedia projects. If interested, please submit a project idea or apply to be a fellow by January 15, 2012. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships for more information.

Thanks!

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Community Fellowships, Wikimedia Foundation 02:53, 22 Decembris 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Announcing Wikipedia 1.19 beta[recensere]

Wikimedia Foundation is getting ready to push out 1.19 to all the WMF-hosted wikis. As we finish wrapping up our code review, you can test the new version right now on beta.wmflabs.org. For more information, please read the release notes or the start of the final announcement.

The following are the areas that you will probably be most interested in:

  • Faster loading of javascript files makes dependency tracking more important.
  • New common*.css files usable by skins instead of having to copy piles of generic styles from MonoBook or Vector's css.
  • The default user signature now contains a talk link in addition to the user link.
  • Searching blocked usernames in block log is now clearer.
  • Better timezone recognition in user preferences.
  • Improved diff readability for colorblind people.
  • The interwiki links table can now be accessed also when the interwiki cache is used (used in the API and the Interwiki extension).
  • More gender support (for instance in logs and user lists).
  • Language converter improved, e.g. it now works depending on the page content language.
  • Time and number-formatting magic words also now depend on the page content language.
  • Bidirectional support further improved after 1.18.

Report any problems on the labs beta wiki and we'll work to address them before they software is released to the production wikis.

Note that this cluster does have SUL but it is not integrated with SUL in production, so you'll need to create another account. You should avoid using the same password as you use here. — Global message delivery 16:21, 15 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki 1.19[recensere]

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to upgrade MediaWiki (the software powering this wiki) to its latest version this month. You can help to test it before it is enabled, to avoid disruption and breakage. More information is available in the full announcement. Thank you for your understanding.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system (wrong page? You can fix it.). 15:09, 12 Februarii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bot flag for GedawyBot[recensere]

Disputatio conclusa : Flag denied. Bot now seems to have died or otherwise moved on.
  • Bot  : GedawyBot
  • Operator  : M.Gedawy
  • Programming Language(s)  : Python (pywikipedia)
  • Function Summary  : Interwiki
  • Contributions  : see here
  • Already has bot flag on  : +150 wikis

I will make another request on meta. Thank you.--M.Gedawy 15:20, 16 Februarii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    • For clarification, what will you do differently from CandalBot? I have concerns about running multiple interwiki bots that may be running at cross purposes. Have you discussed this with Candalua and/or gotten his code for multiple interwikis on a single page? If not, how do you handle multiple interwiki links to different texts on the same subdomain (e.g. work here in Latin links to two translations on en.ws)? I stopped running my interwiki bot (Usor:Interwiki-Bot) because I couldn't do as good a job as Candalua could. Comments Candalua? Thanks.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 23:40, 19 Februarii 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's why i won't run the bot on "Wikisource" namespace again (Is that enough?). I already asked Candalua about his patch.--M.Gedawy 14:24, 21 Februarii 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I think the problem is in the mainspace where books link to multiple translations on the same language (and if oldwikisource becomes mul.ws then where there are two works on mul). I have no objection if you go ahead and keep running without the flag and I'll wait for Candalua to comment. Assuming no one opposes, I'll flag you if Candalua says it's not going to be an issue. If you've got his patch then everything should be fine but I haven't kept up on the interwiki issues enough so I'll defer to Candalua.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 19:46, 23 Februarii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi folks. First thing: as I already said to Gedawy, the Wikisource namespace is one thing; the main namespace, aka ns0, is a different thing! Foo is in ns0, but Wikisource:Foo is in Wikisource namespace. It looks strange that you want to run a bot without knowing about namespaces, but I hope it's a just a distraction. Anyway:

  • if you run the standard pywikipedia software, we can easily trust you as a bot operator as long as you don't run in ns0, only in the other namespaces. Do some more edits here just to see that you're doing good, and we can give you the flag.
  • if you run my patch, you must know exactly what you're doing. It's possible that the patch works for the version of pywikipedia that I'm using, and that it doesn't work for the version you're using. Or things like that. For this reason, before I give you the patch, I must be sure that you know what to do with it.

So: I suggest you use the standard pywikipedia for now, and then we'll see. It's also possibile that the patch will be included in future versions of pywikipedia. (Doug, I sent you an email on January 5, for you to share it with the developers, then I completely forgot the matter: do you have updates about that?) Candalua (talk) 11:47, 24 Februarii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Candalua, yes, thanks for the reminder, let me check on what happened with that, I made sure folks had it but I'm not sure what they did with it. I've been out of the loop for the past couple months and probably will be for a few more as I'm moving intercontinentally, but I'll try to follow up on this.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 06:16, 15 Martii 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I want to make a different function please: I want to use my bot to welcome new users by creating their talk pages with {{subst:Salve}}
I'll use a modified script from Welcome.py. My bot already does this function on Arabic wikis (See this for an example). Best regards.--M.Gedawy 02:54, 11 Martii 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • You have 7 edits, 4 of them right here, and no mainspace edits. I don't believe you are familiar with this wiki. Take a look at Specialis:ActiveUsers and Specialis:Census and I think you'll realize that a welcome bot is a bit overkill for this subdomain, and that's putting it mildly. You could manually welcome all the new users about as quick as you could run your bot and welcome from a bot here says that even the few active users we have aren't actually home so we need a bot mind the house. Automated processes can be useful, but I am sorry, I have to oppose a welcome bot on la.ws.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 06:00, 15 Martii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Update on IPv6[recensere]

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language. Please consider translating it, as well as the full version of this announcement on Meta)

The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to do limited testing of IPv6 on June 2-3. If there are not too many problems, we may fully enable IPv6 on World IPv6 day (June 6), and keep it enabled.

What this means for your project:

  • At least on June 2-3, 2012, you may see a small number of edits from IPv6 addresses, which are in the form "2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334". See e.g. w:en:IPv6 address. These addresses should behave like any other IP address: You can leave messages on their talk pages; you can track their contributions; you can block them. (See the full version of this announcement for notes on range blocks.)
  • In the mid term, some user scripts and tools will need to be adapted for IPv6.
  • We suspect that IPv6 usage is going to be very low initially, meaning that abuse should be manageable, and we will assist in the monitoring of the situation.

Read the full version of this announcement on how to test the behavior of IPv6 with various tools and how to leave bug reports, and to find a fuller analysis of the implications of the IPv6 migration.

--Erik Möller, VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation 01:10, 2 Iunii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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2011 Picture of the Year competition[recensere]

македонски • norsk • polski

Dear Wikimedians,

Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2011 Picture of the Year competition is now open. We are interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year 2011. Any user registered at Commons or a Wikimedia wiki SUL-related to Commons with more than 75 edits before 1 April 2012 (UTC) is welcome to vote and, of course everyone is welcome to view!

Detailed information about the contest can be found at the introductory page.

About 600 of the best of Wikimedia Common's photos, animations, movies and graphics were chosen –by the international Wikimedia Commons community– out of 12 million files during 2011 and are now called Featured Pictures.

From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historically relevant images, images portraying the world's best architecture, maps, emblems, diagrams created with the most modern technology, and impressive human portraits, Commons Features Pictures of all flavors.

For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories.

We regret that you receive this message in English; we intended to use banners to notify you in your native language but there was both, human and technical resistance.

See you on Commons! --Picture of the Year 2011 Committee 18:27, 5 Iunii 2012 (UTC)

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Mobile view as default view coming soon[recensere]

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language. Please consider translating it, as well as the instructions on Meta)

The mobile view of this project and others will soon become the default view on mobile devices (except tablets). Some language versions of these projects currently show no content on the mobile home page, and it is a good time to do a little formatting so users get a mobile-friendly view, or to add to existing mobile content if some already exists.

If you are an administrator, please consider helping with this change. There are instructions which are being translated. The proposed date of switching the default view is June 21.

To contact the mobile team, email mobile-feedback-llists.wikimedia.org.

--Phil Inje Chang, Product Manager, Mobile, Wikimedia Foundation 08:32, 16 Iunii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Help decide about more than $10 million of Wikimedia donations in the coming year[recensere]

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language. Please consider translating it)

Hi,

As many of you are aware, the Wikimedia Board of Trustees recently initiated important changes in the way that money is being distributed within the Wikimedia movement. As part of this, a new community-led "Funds Dissemination Committee" (FDC) is currently being set up. Already in 2012-13, its recommendations will guide the decisions about the distribution of over 10 million US dollars among the Foundation, chapters and other eligible entities.

Now, seven capable, knowledgeable and trustworthy community members are sought to volunteer on the initial Funds Dissemination Committee. It is expected to take up its work in September. In addition, a community member is sought to be the Ombudsperson for the FDC process. If you are interested in joining the committee, read the call for volunteers. Nominations are planned to close on August 15.

--Anasuya Sengupta, Director of Global Learning and Grantmaking, Wikimedia Foundation 20:14, 19 Iulii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Request for Comment: Legal Fees Assistance Program[recensere]

I apologize for addressing you in English. I would be grateful if you could translate this message into your language.

The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a request for comment on a proposed program that could provide legal assistance to users in specific support roles who are named in a legal complaint as a defendant because of those roles. We wanted to be sure that your community was aware of this discussion and would have a chance to participate in that discussion.

If this page is not the best place to publicize this request for comment, please help spread the word to those who may be interested in participating. (If you'd like to help translating the "request for comment", program policy or other pages into your language and don't know how the translation system works, please come by my user talk page at m:User talk:Mdennis (WMF). I'll be happy to assist or to connect you with a volunteer who can assist.)

Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF)02:03, 6 Septembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikidata is getting close to a first roll-out[recensere]

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.)

As some of you might already have heard Wikimedia Deutschland is working on a new Wikimedia project. It is called m:Wikidata. The goal of Wikidata is to become a central data repository for the Wikipedias, its sister projects and the world. In the future it will hold data like the number of inhabitants of a country, the date of birth of a famous person or the length of a river. These can then be used in all Wikimedia projects and outside of them.

The project is divided into three phases and "we are getting close to roll-out the first phase". The phases are:

  1. language links in the Wikipedias (making it possible to store the links between the language editions of an article just once in Wikidata instead of in each linked article)
  2. infoboxes (making it possible to store the data that is currently in infoboxes in one central place and share the data)
  3. lists (making it possible to create lists and similar things based on queries to Wikidata so they update automatically when new data is added or modified)

It'd be great if you could join us, test the demo version, provide feedback and take part in the development of Wikidata. You can find all the relevant information including an FAQ and sign-up links for our on-wiki newsletter on the Wikidata page on Meta.

For further discussions please use this talk page (if you are uncomfortable writing in English you can also write in your native language there) or point me to the place where your discussion is happening so I can answer there.

--Lydia Pintscher 13:27, 10 Septembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Upcoming software changes - please report any problems[recensere]

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language. Please consider translating it)

All Wikimedia wikis - including this one - will soon be upgraded with new and possibly disruptive code. This process starts today and finishes on October 24 (see the upgrade schedule & code details).

Please watch for problems with:

  • revision diffs
  • templates
  • CSS and JavaScript pages (like user scripts)
  • bots
  • PDF export
  • images, video, and sound, especially scaling sizes
  • the CologneBlue skin

If you notice any problems, please report problems at our defect tracker site. You can test for possible problems at test2.wikipedia.org and mediawiki.org, which have already been updated.

Thanks! With your help we can find problems fast and get them fixed faster.

Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Engineering Community Manager (talk) 03:03, 16 Octobris 2012 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: For the regular, smaller MediaWiki updates every two weeks, please watch this schedule.

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Fundraising localization: volunteers from outside the USA needed[recensere]

Please translate for your local community

Hello All,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Fundraising team have begun our 'User Experience' project, with the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries outside the USA and enhancing the localization of our donation pages. I am searching for volunteers to spend 30 minutes on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real-time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. Please sing up and help us with our 'User Experience' project! :) If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!

Thanks!
Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation

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Admin nominations[recensere]

Disputatio conclusa : Promoted.
I have posted two nominations for two deserving admins at Vicifons:Magistratus. Please comment soon as we generally look at how many regulars have commented rather than the time that has passed.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 02:01, 3 Decembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ARCHIVE ME![recensere]

Scroll scroll scroll. Thanks if someone is okay with this. Billinghurst (disputatio) 13:55, 17 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'll take care of it soon, problem is that old conversations here are not necessarily stale. I'll clean things up and archive closed stuff soon. Until then you'll just have to deal with using the TOC. ;-)--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 15:51, 23 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have just archived a number of sections which were marked as done, or looked like they were finished topics. I hope that's ok; I was just about to post a question here and the size of the pages is ... large :) --MF-Warburg (disputatio) 19:17, 28 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Be a Wikimedia fundraising "User Experience" volunteer![recensere]

Thank you to everyone who volunteered last year on the Wikimedia fundraising 'User Experience' project. We have talked to many different people in different countries and their feedback has helped us immensely in restructuring our pages. If you haven't heard of it yet, the 'User Experience' project has the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries (outside the USA) and enhancing the localization of our donation pages.

I am (still) searching for volunteers to spend some time on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. **All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be very low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)**

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!!

Thanks!

Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation

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Wikimedia sites to move to primary data center in Ashburn, Virginia. Read-only mode expected.[recensere]

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) Next week, the Wikimedia Foundation will transition its main technical operations to a new data center in Ashburn, Virginia, USA. This is intended to improve the technical performance and reliability of all Wikimedia sites, including this wiki. There will be some times when the site will be in read-only mode, and there may be full outages; the current target windows for the migration are January 22nd, 23rd and 24th, 2013, from 17:00 to 01:00 UTC (see other timezones on timeanddate.com). More information is available in the full announcement.

If you would like to stay informed of future technical upgrades, consider becoming a Tech ambassador and joining the ambassadors mailing list. You will be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

Thank you for your help and your understanding.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system (wrong page? You can fix it.). 15:28, 19 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Help turn ideas into grants in the new IdeaLab[recensere]

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

  • Do you have an idea for a project to improve this community or website?
  • Do you think you could complete your idea if only you had some funding?
  • Do you want to help other people turn their ideas into project plans or grant proposals?

Please join us in the IdeaLab, an incubator for project ideas and Individual Engagement Grant proposals.

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking new ideas and proposals for Individual Engagement Grants. These grants fund individuals or small groups to complete projects that help improve this community. If interested, please submit a completed proposal by February 15, 2013. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG for more information.

Thanks! --Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 20:37, 30 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please comment on Individual Engagement Grant proposals until February 21[recensere]

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

The Wikimedia Foundation is considering Individual Engagement Grant proposals from community members. Please join the discussion and share your thoughts about these ideas, until February 21. The following proposal may be of particular relevance for this Wikimedia project:

Thanks! --Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 01:03, 20 Februarii 2013 (UTC) Distributed via Global message delivery. (Wrong page? Correct it here.)[reply]

Request for comment on inactive administrators[recensere]

(Please consider translating this message for the benefit of your fellow Wikimedians. Please also consider translating the proposal.)

Read this message in English / Lleer esti mensaxe n'asturianu / বাংলায় এই বার্তাটি পড়ুন / Llegiu aquest missatge en català / Læs denne besked på dansk / Lies diese Nachricht auf Deutsch / Leś cal mesag' chè in Emiliàn / Leer este mensaje en español / Lue tämä viesti suomeksi / Lire ce message en français / Ler esta mensaxe en galego / हिन्दी / Pročitajte ovu poruku na hrvatskom / Baca pesan ini dalam Bahasa Indonesia / Leggi questo messaggio in italiano / ಈ ಸಂದೇಶವನ್ನು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಓದಿ / Aqra dan il-messaġġ bil-Malti / norsk (bokmål) / Lees dit bericht in het Nederlands / Przeczytaj tę wiadomość po polsku / Citiți acest mesaj în română / Прочитать это сообщение на русском / Farriintaan ku aqri Af-Soomaali / Pročitaj ovu poruku na srpskom (Прочитај ову поруку на српском) / อ่านข้อความนี้ในภาษาไทย / Прочитати це повідомлення українською мовою / Đọc thông báo bằng tiếng Việt / 使用中文阅读本信息。

Hello!

There is a new request for comment on Meta-Wiki concerning the removal of administrative rights from long-term inactive Wikimedians. Generally, this proposal from stewards would apply to wikis without an administrators' review process.

We are also compiling a list of projects with procedures for removing inactive administrators on the talk page of the request for comment. Feel free to add your project(s) to the list if you have a policy on administrator inactivity.

All input is appreciated. The discussion may close as soon as 21 May 2013 (2013-05-21), but this will be extended if needed.

Thanks, Billinghurst (thanks to all the translators!) 04:57, 24 Aprilis 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikisource vision development: News April 2013[recensere]

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

Dear Wikisourcerors, it has been almost a month since we have started with the Elaborate Wikisource strategic vision grant and we would like to share some news with you:

And that's it for now! During the month of May, we (Aubrey and Micru) would like to organize at least one Skype or Google Hangout meeting for the users of each one of the 10 biggest wikisources plus another one or two for the other languages (depending on interest). We want to know your opinion on what Wikisource should become in the next years.

Thanks! --Micru and Aubrey 00:59, 27 Aprilis 2013 (UTC)

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[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming[recensere]

Some accounts will soon be renamed due to a technical change that the developer team at Wikimedia are making. More details on Meta.

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[en] Change to section edit links[recensere]

The default position of the "edit" link in page section headers is going to change soon. The "edit" link will be positioned adjacent to the page header text rather than floating opposite it.

Section edit links will be to the immediate right of section titles, instead of on the far right. If you're an editor of one of the wikis which already implemented this change, nothing will substantially change for you; however, scripts and gadgets depending on the previous implementation of section edit links will have to be adjusted to continue working; however, nothing else should break even if they are not updated in time.

Detailed information and a timeline is available on meta.

Ideas to do this all the way to 2009 at least. It is often difficult to track which of several potential section edit links on the far right is associated with the correct section, and many readers and anonymous or new editors may even be failing to notice section edit links at all, since they read section titles, which are far away from the links.

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Tech newsletter: Subscribe to receive the next editions[recensere]

Latest Tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes.
Recent software changes
(Not all changes will affect you.)
  • The latest version of MediaWiki (version 1.22/wmf4) was added to non-Wikipedia wikis on May 13, and to the English Wikipedia (with a Wikidata software update) on May 20. It will be updated on all other Wikipedia sites on May 22. [1] [2]
  • A software update will perhaps result in temporary issues with images. Please report any problems you notice. [3]
  • MediaWiki recognizes links in twelve new schemes. Users can now link to SSH, XMPP and Bitcoin directly from wikicode. [4]
  • VisualEditor was added to all content namespaces on mediawiki.org on May 20. [5]
  • A new extension ("TemplateData") was added to all Wikipedia sites on May 20. It will allow a future version of VisualEditor to edit templates. [6]
  • New sites: Greek Wikivoyage and Venetian Wiktionary joined the Wikimedia family last week; the total number of project wikis is now 794. [7] [8]
  • The logo of 18 Wikipedias was changed to version 2.0 in a third group of updates. [9]
  • The UploadWizard on Commons now shows links to the old upload form in 55 languages (bug 33513). [10]
Future software changes
  • The next version of MediaWiki (version 1.22/wmf5) will be added to Wikimedia sites starting on May 27. [11]
  • An updated version of Notifications, with new features and fewer bugs, will be added to the English Wikipedia on May 23. [12]
  • The final version of the "single user login" (which allows people to use the same username on different Wikimedia wikis) is moved to August 2013. The software will automatically rename some usernames. [13]
  • A new discussion system for MediaWiki, called "Flow", is under development. Wikimedia designers need your help to inform other users, test the prototype and discuss the interface. [14].
  • The Wikimedia Foundation is hiring people to act as links between software developers and users for VisualEditor. [15]
Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by Global message delivery • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Unsubscribe • 20:52, 20 Maii 2013 (UTC)
Important note: This is the first edition of the Tech News weekly summaries, which help you monitor recent software changes likely to impact you and your fellow Wikimedians.

If you want to continue to receive the next issues every week, please subscribe to the newsletter. You can subscribe your personal talk page and a community page like this one. The newsletter can be translated into your language.

You can also become a tech ambassador, help us write the next newsletter and tell us what to improve. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. guillom 20:52, 20 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Trademark discussion[recensere]

Hi, apologies for posting this in English, but I wanted to alert your community to a discussion on Meta about potential changes to the Wikimedia Trademark Policy. Please translate this statement if you can. We hope that you will all participate in the discussion; we also welcome translations of the legal team’s statement into as many languages as possible and encourage you to voice your thoughts there. Please see the Trademark practices discussion (on Meta-Wiki) for more information. Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF) (talk)

X!'s Edit Counter[recensere]

(Sorry for writing in English. You can translate the proposal.)

Should X!'s edit counter retain the opt-in requirement? Your input is strongly encouraged. Voice your input here.——cyberpower ChatAutomation 04:43, 23 Iunii 2013 (UTC)

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Universal Language Selector will be enabled on 2013-07-09[recensere]

On July 9, 2013, Universal Language Selector (ULS) will be enabled on this wiki. The ULS provides a flexible way to configure and deliver language settings like interface language, fonts, and input methods (keyboard mappings). Making it available here is the last phase of making ULS available on all Wikimedia wikis.

Please read the announcement on Meta-Wiki for more information. Siebrand 12:41, 4 Iulii 2013 (UTC) (via Global message delivery).[reply]

Pywikipedia is migrating to git[recensere]

Hello, Sorry for English but It's very important for bot operators so I hope someone translates this. Pywikipedia is migrating to Git so after July 26, SVN checkouts won't be updated If you're using Pywikipedia you have to switch to git, otherwise you will use out-dated framework and your bot might not work properly. There is a manual for doing that and a blog post explaining about this change in non-technical language. If you have question feel free to ask in mw:Manual talk:Pywikipediabot/Gerrit, mailing list, or in the IRC channel. Best Amir (via Global message delivery). 13:29, 23 Iulii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

HTTPS for users with an account[recensere]

Greetings. Starting on August 21 (tomorrow), all users with an account will be using HTTPS to access Wikimedia sites. HTTPS brings better security and improves your privacy. More information is available at m:HTTPS.

If HTTPS causes problems for you, tell us on bugzilla, on IRC (in the #wikimedia-operations channel) or on meta. If you can't use the other methods, you can also send an e-mail to https@wikimedia.org.

Greg Grossmeier (via the Global message delivery system). 19:22, 20 Augusti 2013 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)[reply]

[recensere]

Request for consultation on this community logo

First, I’d like to apologize for the English. If you can, please help to translate this for other members of your community.

The legal team at the Wikimedia Foundation would greatly appreciate your input on the best way to manage the "community logo" (pictured here) to best balance protection of the projects with community support. Accordingly, they have created a “request for consultation” on Meta where they set out briefly some of the issues to be considered and the options that they perceive. Your input would be invaluable in helping guide them in how best to serve our mission.

Thank you! --Mdennis (talk) (via the Global message delivery system). 02:48, 24 Septembris 2013 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)[reply]

Notifications[recensere]

Notifications inform you of new activity that affects you -- and let you take quick action.

(This message is in English, please translate as needed)

Greetings!

Notifications will inform users about new activity that affects them on this wiki in a unified way: for example, this new tool will let you know when you have new talk page messages, edit reverts, mentions or links -- and is designed to augment (rather than replace) the watchlist. The Wikimedia Foundation's editor engagement team developed this tool (code-named 'Echo') earlier this year, to help users contribute more productively to MediaWiki projects.

We're now getting ready to bring Notifications to almost all other Wikimedia sites, and are aiming for a 22 October deployment, as outlined in this release plan. It is important that notifications is translated for all of the languages we serve.

There are three major points of translation needed to be either done or checked:

Please let us know if you have any questions, suggestions or comments about this new tool. For more information, visit this project hub and this help page. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:53, 4 Octobris 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(via the Global message delivery system) (wrong page? You can fix it.)

Speak up about the trademark registration of the Community logo.[recensere]

Hi all,

Please join the consultation about the Community logo that represents Meta-Wiki: m:Community Logo/Request for consultation.

This community consultation was commenced on September 24. The following day, two individuals filed a legal opposition against the registration of the Community logo.

The question is whether the Wikimedia Foundation should seek a collective membership mark with respect to this logo or abandon its registration and protection of the trademark.

We want to make sure that everyone get a chance to speak up so that we can get clear direction from the community. We would therefore really appreciate the community's help in translating this announcement from English so that everyone is able to understand it.

Thanks, Geoff & Yana 20:28, 8 Octobris 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Introducting Beta Features[recensere]

(Apologies for writing in English. Please translate if necessary)

We would like to let you know about Beta Features, a new program from the Wikimedia Foundation that lets you try out new features before they are released for everyone.

Think of it as a digital laboratory where community members can preview upcoming software and give feedback to help improve them. This special preference page lets designers and engineers experiment with new features on a broad scale, but in a way that's not disruptive.

Beta Features is now ready for testing on MediaWiki.org. It will also be released on Wikimedia Commons and MetaWiki this Thursday, 7 November. Based on test results, the plan is to release it on all wikis worldwide on 21 November, 2013.

Here are the first features you can test this week:

Would you like to try out Beta Features now? After you log in on MediaWiki.org, a small 'Beta' link will appear next to your 'Preferences'. Click on it to see features you can test, check the ones you want, then click 'Save'. Learn more on the Beta Features page.

After you've tested Beta Features, please let the developers know what you think on this discussion page -- or report any bugs here on Bugzilla. You're also welcome to join this IRC office hours chat on Friday, 8 November at 18:30 UTC.

Beta Features was developed by the Wikimedia Foundation's Design, Multimedia and VisualEditor teams. Along with other developers, they will be adding new features to this experimental program every few weeks. They are very grateful to all the community members who helped create this project — and look forward to many more productive collaborations in the future.

Enjoy, and don't forget to let developers know what you think! Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:15, 5 Novembris 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Distributed via Global message delivery (wrong page? Correct it here), 20:15, 5 Novembris 2013 (UTC)

Call for comments on draft trademark policy[recensere]

Hi all,

The Wikimedia legal team invites you to participate in the development of the new Wikimedia trademark policy.

The current trademark policy was introduced in 2009 to protect the Wikimedia marks. We are now updating this policy to better balance permissive use of the marks with the legal requirements for preserving them for the community. The new draft trademark policy is ready for your review here, and we encourage you to discuss it here.

We would appreciate if someone would translate this message into your language so more members of your community can contribute to the conversation.

Thanks,
Yana & Geoff

Reminder: Wikidata coming on January 14th[recensere]

(This is a message to all Wikisource editions. Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this for me on the non-English editions.)

Hi!

I am Wikidata's product manager. If you are unfamilar with Wikidata please have a look at d:Q3107329 for example.

As you might already have heard Wikisource will be the fourth project supported by Wikidata after Wikipedia, Wikivoyage and Commons. We are currently planning this for January 14th. From this point on you will be able to handle the links between projects in Wikidata. This means you will only have to maintain them once instead of having them duplicated in every article. However fear not: the local interwiki links will still continue to work and they will overwrite what comes from Wikidata.

This is the first step of Wikidata supporting Wikisource. In a second step we will enable access to the actual data on Wikidata like biographical data about authors. I do not have a date for that yet however.

The planning is happening at d:Wikidata:Wikisource. We are still looking for some more ambassadors who can help during the process and make sure everything goes smoothly for you. Please add your name to the list at d:Wikidata:Wikisource if you're willing to do this.

If you have questions please also post them on the discussion page of d:Wikidata:Wikisource.


Cheers Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 19:34, 29 Decembris 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata is here![recensere]

Hey everyone :)

As previously announced we have just enabled interwiki links via Wikidata for Wikisource. This means from now on you no longer have to maintain the links in the Wikitext but can maintain them together with the links for Wikipedia, Commons and Wikivoyage on Wikidata. You will still be able to keep them locally though if you want to. Local interwiki links will overwrite the ones from Wikidata. You do not yet have access to the other data on Wikidata like the date of birth of an author. That will come in a future deployment. I will let you know when I have a date for it.

If you have any questions d:Wikidata:Wikisource is a good first step. It also has a list of people familiar with both Wikisource and Wikidata who are able to help you out. That is also a good place for any issues or bugs you encounter.


I'm really excited to welcome you all to Wikidata! I hope it will become a great help for Wikisource.


Cheers Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) via MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 21:07, 14 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment on Commons: Should Wikimedia support MP4 video?[recensere]

I apologize for this message being only in English. Please translate it if needed to help your community.

The Wikimedia Foundation's multimedia team seeks community guidance on a proposal to support the MP4 video format. This digital video standard is used widely around the world to record, edit and watch videos on mobile phones, desktop computers and home video devices. It is also known as H.264/MPEG-4 or AVC.

Supporting the MP4 format would make it much easier for our users to view and contribute video on Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects -- and video files could be offered in dual formats on our sites, so we could continue to support current open formats (WebM and Ogg Theora).

However, MP4 is a patent-encumbered format, and using a proprietary format would be a departure from our current practice of only supporting open formats on our sites -- even though the licenses appear to have acceptable legal terms, with only a small fee required.

We would appreciate your guidance on whether or not to support MP4. Our Request for Comments presents views both in favor and against MP4 support, based on opinions we’ve heard in our discussions with community and team members.

Please join this RfC -- and share your advice.

All users are welcome to participate, whether you are active on Commons, Wikipedia, other Wikimedia project -- or any site that uses content from our free media repository.

You are also welcome to join tomorrow's Office hours chat on IRC, this Thursday, January 16, at 19:00 UTC, if you would like to discuss this project with our team and other community members.

We look forward to a constructive discussion with you, so we can make a more informed decision together on this important topic. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:47, 16 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki language[recensere]

Disputatio conclusa : Use user preferences, no change to local wiki defaults.

It's very hard to try to make any single edition here on la.wikisource, mostly because the entire wiki (templates, user interface etc) is in Latin. I fully understand the reasons for an Wikipedia fully in Latin language, but a repository to host classical texts in Latin don't makes any sense to me. The majority of internet users are able to read and to write in English, even poorly, but not in Latin. Is there any special reason to not default the languague to English and make templates multilingual like Wikimedia Commons does? Lugusto (disputatio) 03:41, 19 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You may change in your preferences the language of the user interface to english. S8w4 (disputatio) 16:27, 26 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Access to data in Wikidata[recensere]

Hey :)

(Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this for me where necessary.)

Not long ago we enabled language links via Wikidata for Wikisource. This seems to have gone rather smoothly. Thanks to everyone who helped! But as you know this was only the start. What is actually more interesting is access to the data in Wikidata like the date of birth of an author or the year a book was published. We have planned this for February 25th (unless any issues arise). You will then be able to use the data in your articles. I hope this will open up a lot of new opportunities for you.

If you have any questions d:Wikidata:Wikisource is a good place to find help.

Cheers Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 13:51, 27 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014[recensere]

On January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.

We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.

You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa

Amendment to the Terms of Use[recensere]

Hello all,

Please join a discussion about a proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use regarding undisclosed paid editing and we encourage you to voice your thoughts there. Please translate this statement if you can, and we welcome you to translate the proposed amendment and introduction. Please see the discussion on Meta Wiki for more information. Thank you! Slaporte (WMF) 22:00, 21 Februarii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Renewed application on Commons[recensere]

Hi Wikisorcerers,

If you wish to support my admin's request on Commons (to go on protecting djvu and pdf files), you can find it here. Auxilium ferre potestis  :) Vobis gratias ago ! --Zyephyrus (disputatio) 09:37, 22 Februarii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You can now access the data on Wikidata[recensere]

Hey folks,

We have just enabled data access to Wikidata for Wikisource (except old-wikisource). This means you can now access data like the date of birth of an author or the ISBN of a book. You can do this in two ways. The first one is a parser function. You can use it like {{#property:capital}} or {{#property:P36}}. The second one is Lua. The documentation for that is at mw:Extension:WikibaseClient/Lua

If you have any questions you will find help at d:Wikidata:Wikisource and its talk page.

I hope you'll use this to do some kick-ass things on Wikisource ;-)


Cheers Lydia Pintscher 19:54, 25 Februarii 2014 (UTC)

Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experiments[recensere]

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make Wikisource better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.

Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:

Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!

Hope to have your participation,

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 19:44, 28 Februarii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment[recensere]

Hello all, in response to some community comments in the discussion on the amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing, we have prepared two optional changes. Please read about these optional changes on Meta wiki and share your comments. If you can (and this is a non english project), please translate this announcement. Thanks! Slaporte (WMF) 21:56, 13 Martii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to the default site typography coming soon[recensere]

This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:

  • April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
  • April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live

This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.

For more information:

-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team

Wikisource meetup at Wikimania 2014[recensere]

Wikimania 2014 will be held in London this August and it will be a great opportunity to discuss how to use the recently created Wikisource Community User Group to coordinate and to better promote Wikisource. We would like to invite the participants of each Wikisource language community to showcase the projects has been working in the past year and, of course, learn from each other experiences. See you there? Sign up in the meeting page.
—The preceding MassMessage was sent by Micru on behalf of the Wikisource Community User Group.--06:59, 13 Maii 2014 (UTC)

Media Viewer[recensere]


Greetings, my apologies for writing in English.

I wanted to let you know that Media Viewer will be released to this wiki in the coming weeks. Media Viewer allows readers of Wikimedia projects to have an enhanced view of files without having to visit the file page, but with more detail than a thumbnail. You can try Media Viewer out now by turning it on in your Beta Features. If you do not enjoy Media Viewer or if it interferes with your work after it is turned on you will be able to disable Media Viewer as well in your preferences. I invite you to share what you think about Media Viewer and how it can be made better in the future.

Thank you for your time. - Keegan (WMF) 21:29, 23 Maii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Media Viewer is now live on this wiki[recensere]


Media Viewer lets you see images in larger size

Greetings— and sorry for writing in English, please translate if it will help your community,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.

Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.

If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on MediaWiki.org in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.

We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 21:54, 19 Iunii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions[recensere]

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.

-- JurgenNL (talk) 17:35, 21 Augusti 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Process ideas for software development[recensere]

’’My apologies for writing in English.’’

Hello,

I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.

I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.

Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 22:15, 21 Augusti 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Grants to improve your project[recensere]

Apologies for English. Please help translate this message.

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th. Your idea could improve Wikimedia projects with a new tool or gadget, a better process to support community-building on your wiki, research on an important issue, or something else we haven't thought of yet. Whether you need $200 or $30,000 USD, Individual Engagement Grants can cover your own project development time in addition to hiring others to help you.

Change in renaming process[recensere]

Part or all of this message may be in English. Please help translate if possible.

Single-user login (SUL) finalisation's goal is so that every Wikimedia editor has a single, recognized global account with one username across all projects. As you may know, after a long delay, it's now underway as an effort between bureaucrats, stewards, and Wikimedia Foundation engineers. This will also allow for development of cross-wiki tools like global notifications and watchlists. There is no set date for the completion of single-user login finalization at this time.

The process involves changing all rename processes into one global renaming process. The ability for local bureaucrats to rename users on this wiki will be turned off on Monday, 15 September 2014, as one of the first steps. Global renamers are in the process of being created to make sure projects and languages are represented by the time this occurs. I sent a note to every bureaucrat about this process three weeks ago with an invitation to participate and many have begun requesting to be a part of the group. Together with the stewards, the global renamers will be empowered to help editors work through the often difficult process of getting a global name.

In parting, visit Special:MergeAccount to unify your account if you have never done so. If your local pages about renaming still need to be updated, please do so and consider pointing people to m:SRUC for future rename requests, especially if this project does not have bureaucrats that hold global renamer permissions. If you have any questions, you can read more on the help page on Meta. You can also follow the technical progress on mediawiki.org. Contact me on Meta any time with questions as well. Thank you for your time.

-- User:Keegan (WMF) (talk) 22:23, 2014 ж. қыркүйектің 9 (ALMT)


Meta RfCs on two new global groups[recensere]

Hello all,

There are currently requests for comment open on meta to create two new global groups. The first is a group for members of the OTRS permissions queue, which would grant them autopatrolled rights on all wikis except those who opt-out. That proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Creation of a global OTRS-permissions user group. The second is a group for Wikimedia Commons admins and OTRS agents to view deleted file pages through the 'viewdeletedfile' right on all wikis except those who opt-out. The second proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Global file deletion review.

We would like to hear what you think on both proposals. Both are in English; if you wanted to translate them into your native language that would also be appreciated.

It is possible for individual projects to opt-out, so that users in those groups do not have any additional rights on those projects. To do this please start a local discussion, and if there is consensus you can request to opt-out of either or both at m:Stewards' noticeboard.

Thanks and regards, Ajraddatz (talk) 18:05, 26 Octobris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wsexport: an automatic export tool for Wikisource[recensere]

Hello, and first sorry for this automatic delivery message.

An export tool for Wikisource books, Wsexport, is currently in active development. It is a tool for exporting Wikisource's texts in EPUB, ODT and other file formats. It was created for French Wikisource, but it's also available for the other Wikisource subdomains. It can be used directly from its page on Toolserver.org (for texts in all languages, use "www" for oldwikisource), or browsing http://wsexport.fr.nf (currently only for French Wikisource's texts).

In order to work, the tool need some configuration from your Wikisource subdomain, This page explains how to do it. Currently French, Italian, English, and German Wikisource does it.

You will find more information on The global Scriptorium. Ask here for all question.

This message was distributed to all Wikisources using the Global message delivery system. If you want to use it to send your messages, ask for permission here. () 21:18, 15 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)

Does anyone know if this is implemented yet? Ithinkicahn (disputatio) 03:18, 8 Martii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Letter by Erasmus of Rotterdam[recensere]

Hi there, I have a scan (two pages) of a transcribed letter from Erasmus to Gaspar Schets from a book written by two British people. Since the letter would be a nice addition to w:de:Freiburger Bächle, I'd love to have it published here. What exactly do I have to do? Would someone like to guide me? --Flominator 19:00, 19 Octobris 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, first use the proper [[w:de:Freiburger Bächle]], then improve the images by cropping etc., upload the new versions to commons (as I did with slightly improved ones), and then go to pagina:Erasmus_to_Gaspar_1.jpg and pagina:Erasmus_to_Gaspar_2.jpg to use the "OCR" button which will give you, after a few seconds, the Latin text, with some errors. There's no need to save it here, unless you want to properly create an addition to Scriptor:Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus. I've copied the OCRed text to the German WP page. --Matthead 08:52, 4 Decembris 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What happened to these? They have no OCR layer.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 13:46, 20 Februarii 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See ERASMVS ROT, GASPARI SCHETO S. D. --Matthead 00:44, 21 Februarii 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Does anyone know the source of these fragments? I actually like the method of placing the image thumb beside the page to make it even more obvious that the source is available, and linking to the filespace rather than the pagespace so visitors who are researching won't be taken automatically to the editing interface; however, I'm not so keen on uploading a fragment where it's fairly obvious the rest is available.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 14:02, 23 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Global sysops[recensere]

There is a vote at meta:Global_sysops, which looks like passing. Please vote.

Also, if it is approved, we have the option of opt-ing out.

I believe we should opt-out. We are small, but most of our admins are quite active on other projects, and can be reached easily via email, or have our preferences set to email us when our talk page is edited. John Vandenberg 04:29, 9 Ianuarii 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On March 14, Victor Vasiliev (Usor:VasilievVV) has introduced himself here as a member of Small Wiki Monitoring Team and a global sysop. --Matthead 02:32, 24 Martii 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal: unbundled rights granted by crats[recensere]

It's my understanding that our crat is unable to grant certain unbundled sysop rights, most importantly Transwiki Importer. This is a very important right on wikisources but apparently not given to crats because it was decided long ago on wikipedias that it was not an important right. It may not be important there but for templates, multilingual pages, and mw pages it is very important here. Therefore, I propose: that bureaucrats shall be authorized to grant all unbundled rights that are normally part of the bundled sysop rights and that a bugzilla shall be submitted to enable this right. I have made a similar proposal on old.ws and en.ws. --Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 10:23, 18 Septembris 2011 (UTC) Stating it again for clarity, it is proposed:[reply]

That bureaucrats shall be authorized to grant all unbundled rights that are normally part of the bundled sysop rights and that a bugzilla shall be submitted to enable this right

After comments on several other subdomains, I modify the proposal to the following:

That the power to grant Transwiki Importer rights shall be assigned to Bureaucrats and they shall be authorized to assign the rights whenever they find there is community consensus.
I have intentionally omitted a detailing of the process for requesting the rights. I don't think we need that much bureaucracy here. However, the point is that the rights should belong to crats who are familiar with our local processes; rather than with Stewards. The rights belong to all admins and crats can promote them, so they should be able to grant the right alone.

Promotions[recensere]

I am about to post several proposed promotions to Vicifons:Magistratus. I have discussed these via e-mail and IRC with Accurimbono, OrbiliusMagister, and John Vandenberg with positive comments from all. I am nominating all active admins for Bureaucrat. They are all highly trusted and experienced and most are admins on other projects (two have rights above admin on other projects). It will make it easier to find one when needed on our small project. I am also nominating active users for Admin. Active is relative on this project. I will miss some active users, so please add to the list if you like. I also think that we should continue this with all active editors becoming admins, particularly if they are admins on other projects, from time-to-time, and new admins becoming bureaucrats after they have been active for a while. Editors may need access to the mediawiki pages or to transwiki import or to delete/suppress redirects or pages that are transwikied. They shouldn't have to wait for an admin when they are themselves experienced and trustworthy. Originally, I mentioned checkuser/oversighter; I thought we should start the long process of obtaining 25 votes for two of each. However, John Vandenberg pointed out to me that active users on other project, although eligible to vote, would not do so because of a chapter in the poetlister saga. So for now, we will drop that idea and try to build the project.

If people are interested, we could also have temporary sysops and crats could be authorized to award the rights; this would be useful for users like usor:phe, for example. When many active users are crats, this will be easy to accomplish.

Please vote/discuss (and add nominations if you think of users I have forgotten); also see my threads above about Transwiki Importer being locally assignable and about Flagged Revisions.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 08:00, 4 Octobris 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Transwiki space[recensere]

We have a few items in the pseudo namespace Transwiki. There are no sources for any of them so I have no idea of the legitimacy of the texts; however, one, Transwiki:Cenodoxus, included substantial English commentary that was out of scope and a likely copyvio and I have deleted it (it is also possible that it was originally created in that form on en.wp and transwikied here, in which case it belonged - if anywhere - at wikibooks). If anyone wants to extract the Latin, it appears to all be at this site: Spiritu-Temporis.com. The other Tranwiki works were probably typed in directly and have no (or almost no English). All appear to have been transwikied (the old way) from en.ws. All can be viewed at Transwiki.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 20:44, 6 Octobris 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Let's move them to ns0. But, for all texts without source (and there seems to be a lot of them here), we should be more rigid: they should be marked as unsourced and deleted if no source is found after a reasonable amount of time. We can do this automatically: if the template:Titulus2 find that the corresponding Disputatio page does not exist, it shows a box with something like "This page does not provide informations about the source of the text". This will not work 100%, because the Disputatio can exist but not contain tl:OperisInfo, or OperisInfo can be empty, but it will make a good approximation. Candalua 08:46, 7 Octobris 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I found a reasonable online source for Charter of the right of the Lordship of Lovat, albeit not a scan. It deviated somewhat from the copy we had so I used it instead and deleted our transwiki version. See the talk page for that work for details. The two remaining works in transwiki space need to be googled but unless they show up somewhere are beyond my ability to test their authenticity. I will move them to mainspace per Candalua and others can decide whether they're authentic.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 03:47, 17 Octobris 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Although I agree with Candalua on the principle of sourcing, I think we should consider whether Diputatio is the right namespace to have this data in. Is there a good reason not to create Liber page, even where there are no scans? With a little labeled section transclusion we should be able to transclude "" onto the mainspace and thus generate the source tab. The Liber page is the natural metadata space for wikisources. Inductiveload has a prototype metadata tab that will also display this information as a sort of pop-up, so that it can be viewed without leaving the mainspace.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 20:58, 23 Novembris 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Disputatio is certainly a bad place. Have you ever been at vec.source? there it works like this: if the text is proofread, the data about the source are retrieved from the Index page using labeled section transclusion; if not, there are 2 parameters "edition" and "source" directly in the header template of the text. At the bottom of every ns0 page you immediately see where the text comes from. Clean and simple; no talk pages, except those in which we actually talk. We could do the same here, and if we use MediaWiki:Proofreadpage header template maybe we don't even need labeled sections. I'm not so sure about using Liber namespace for non-proofread data, but we can try. Candalua 00:03, 24 Novembris 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Import & Formulae[recensere]

Ave,

Now that I’m admin (thank you everybody), I just test the special:import. Its works : Pagina:Abelard Heloise Cousin - Lettres I.djvu/5. But there will be some work to do on the template (on this page, there is not the equivalent of en:template:Hws/[[en:template:Hwe).

Did someone already perform imports ? Is there some habits/rules about importation and formulae ? (or could I be bold and import pages and formulae ?)

Cdlt, VIGNERON 21:50, 26 Octobris 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As an "international" project, this wikisource should strive to adopt the best practices from the other projects. This concept could be used to import templates and to refurbish already existent templates.
I know this is a challenge because we are asked to leave our "geocentrism" apart (I experienced this recently with Babel extension) and look around: this is by no means easy, but will produce a huge benefit to la.source and to our vision. - εΔω 20:10, 30 Octobris 2011 (UTC)

I think you should be bold. Import whatever you want. Rename it according your ability (I will generally leave renames to those who actually know some latin). Always leave/create redirects from the name in all major modern languages unless there is a conflict. If there is more than one way of doing things, pick a good one unless it's going to make a major change to the way we already do things. Only then do I think we need to discuss first. Note there is a bug on special:import here, noted above. The import of templates will place them in the wrong place (maybe not from en, but from other languages it will) and there will be an incorrect backlink in the log for most if not all imports. The import will work but you may need to move it. Because of the log problem, it is also best to state the sending location in the edit summary. A note to anyone who may be unfamiliar, transwiki import will overwrite existing pages by merging histories and even if intended this can make a mess of the history. Frequently it's best to delete the target page first, if it exists, unless you are updating a previous import to keep pages synchronized.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 12:43, 19 Novembris 2011 (UTC)[reply]

translation needed[recensere]

The following system messages need to be translated into Latin: 

	'optlist':           'Display options',
	'hide_page_numbers': 'Hide page links',
	'show_page_numbers': 'Show page links',
 
	'compare_with':      'Compare with:',
	'compare_texts':     'Compare texts'

Candalua 13:42, 23 Novembris 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry for the delay but I'm still struggling with declensions: these messages are not thought for languages where a preposition should be followed by ablative or accusative... I'm trying to devise a wording implying the "wildcard" as subject... give me some more time... - εΔω 23:24, 24 Novembris 2011 (UTC)

Transcription guidelines for u/v, i/j[recensere]

A Latin work from 1555 is being proofread at http://runeberg.org/olmagnus/ and needs some guidelines for how to transcribe i/j, u/v, ſ/s and various shorthands at word endings. Should fulminũ be changed to fulminum? Should GENTIBVS be left as it is printed, or "corrected" to GENTIBUS? For texts in other languages, the most common practice seems to be to change all long s (ſ) into the common short s (s). Would anything be lost in that transformation? Are there any established guidelines within Vicifons or outside, among Latin scholars? --LA2 22:30, 13 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My opinion, late as it is, is to change it to standard orthography: i instead of j, u where vowel, v where consonant, change all obsolete forms to modern forms (except do not change obsolete spellings such as quum to cum), and expand scribal and typographic abbreviations. Possibly even & to et. The reasoning is that I want to be able to search, and I don't think Vicifons matches on these conformations. --Robert.Baruch (disputatio) 16:33, 19 Martii 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It really depends on the purpose. We don't normally change i/j u/v on here, though some may. long-s is another matter because it's just an archaic letter form for non-terminal-s. The problem with long-s is that it's not always searchable and it doesn't improve accessibility to modern readers, it's hard to read. On the other hand, Google can deal with it and there is a template available for wikisource {{ls}} (though templates have their own problems) that can allow you to see both versions with the proper javascript enabled.
changing i/j and u/v do not really improve accessibility as much as one might think since the words are still Latin ;) and that is how they were written so if you go to classical sources you'll have to deal with those. In English it can improve searchability but in Latin it's important to search both forms anyway. The shorthands are a real problem because not all of them are standardized but typing a macron is not going to work well in any search engine.
If you are trying to duplicate the original, duplicate the original (though some shorthand is impossible to duplicate in unicode), if you want it to be usable, you have to ask yourself "usable to whom?" and then transcribe for them.
la.ws has no policies for anything. ;)—Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 13:33, 9 Aprilis 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Assitance requested[recensere]

Over on English Wikisource, I've started a "small" attempt to transcribe some old Statutes of England, from around the reign of Henry III onward.

Whilst the source ( A 1764 ish Statutes at Large http://archive.org/details/statutesatlargef01grea) I am using provides an English version of many of these Ancicent Statutes, I've also included the Latin version which the source gives. It would be much appreciated if some individuals from this Wikisource would be willing to in effect check the (1764 ish) translation. It is noted that in some places no English language version is given in the source, for these the plan was to provide the original, with a side by side (modern) Translation.

Experience with medival Latin, especially that relating to English legal documents of the period is desirable. Sfan00 IMG (disputatio) 11:32, 28 Martii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

N.: I discussed this with the user on IRC and it's a fairly complicated case. The work is primarily English but substantial portions are in Latin or French, often side-by-side (same page) or over-under. It really needs a holistic approach and I'm going to take a closer look at the full work shortly, I invite others to do the same. It appears to fall into the area of the classic case of how these subdomains really hinder us. The question of a wiki-translation is really an issue for the English Wikisource but appears unnecessary for much of the work as translations already exist in the work itself; thus the side-by-side text.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 23:24, 1 Aprilis 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Works with side by side (translation/original[recensere]

Hi, is there an easy way of setting up a layout so that works which have the original (latin) and translation side by side can be setup so that the latin is here and the translation on a different domain (not la), but which can be transcluded side by side on a third page? Sfan00 IMG (disputatio) 20:06, 9 Aprilis 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, an example is: Pervigilium Veneris. The source is Latin/Italian; you can see them side by side by clicking on the ⇔ icon in the left menu. Take a look at Liber:Pervigilium Veneris (Romagnosi).pdf and its pages (and the corresponding pages on it.source) to see how the text was set up. Candalua (disputatio) 14:07, 13 Aprilis 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can I get some more comments on the above?[recensere]

Can I get some more comments on #Proposal: unbundled rights granted by crats? there are only two !votes, including mine. I'd like to file the bugzilla. To clarify, the modified request is simply to allow crats to grant the Transwiki importer right. This currently requires a steward. Thanks.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 18:48, 11 Aprilis 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just noticed we forgot page and index space[recensere]

I just noticed we used the default/standard settings for Flagged Revisions but that left out page space and index space. I think we need to add those as poor editing or outright vandalism could do serious damage in those spaces that could go unnoticed for an extended period. So long as we give at least autochecked rights to all trusted users, this should cause little inconvenience. Thoughts?--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 10:33, 25 Aprilis 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Import suggestion[recensere]

Would it be possible for a Sysop to import en:Template:Cite_web? Because I want to edit Disputatio:Utopia to indicate that one of the links is down, and you can do this with {{cite web|url=X|deadurl=yes}}. Thanks. It Is Me Here d / c 20:13, 5 Maii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

{{Cite_web}} and {{documentation}} imported. ✔ Perfectum est. John Vandenberg (disputatio) 12:24, 8 Maii 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Warning sign Warning it doesn't work at the moment: see [16] It Is Me Here d / c 09:12, 11 Maii 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I think it is now working. Sorry about the delay. John Vandenberg (disputatio) 22:58, 27 Maii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alebot[recensere]

Disputatio conclusa : Flagged.

I would like to run Alebot here; Alebot is currently flagged on it.ws for various purpouses.

  • Name: Usor:Alebot
  • Operator: Alex brollo (talk)
  • Purpose: Iwpage managing for it/la proofread works.
  • Scope: Primarily nsPagina
  • Language: Python
  • Library: pywikipedia
  • Mode: manual (mainly from Idle python interface for ad hoc jobs).

I request a flag. I ran Alebot today on pages of Liber:Le Pescatorie di Azio Sincero Sannazaro.djvu today (I apologyze for flooding LastChanges) but you can see too usual bot contributions here: it:Special:Contributions/Alebot. --Alex brollo (disputatio) 23:29, 22 Maii 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If la:ws community doesn't matter about some occasional Last Changes flooding, I would be fully satisfied to run Alebot without bot flag. :-) --Alex brollo (disputatio) 09:03, 23 Maii 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Not a big deal either way on this small project but I've flagged it now. Does the bot need recensor rights as well?--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 13:38, 25 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Questions about proofreading states[recensere]

  1. In Liber:Virgile - Géorgiques, traduction Desportes, 1846, 1.djvu, there are some pages (example, another one), which are not transcribed here but on fr.wikisource. I am wondering what the correct proofread status is. Is empty/vacuus appropriate for this? Because the examples I linked are marked as emendata resp. nondum emendata.
  2. Proofreading this page and others, I have corrected quite a bit. Was it correct to therefore change the state from emendata to nondum emendata? --MF-Warburg (disputatio) 02:50, 4 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  3. In this diff, is it correct to use "j" when "j" is used in the source and "i" when "i" is? Or should all i/j be "i"?
  4. In this edit, should I have added the "----" for the horizontal line? Is there some other way of doing that, or should I just ignore it? PiRSquared17 (disputatio) 03:41, 4 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    1. If the page is transcribed on fr but the text is latin, this is simply incorrect. The latin text should be here. If the page is entirely in french, then yes, empty/vacuus is normal.
    2. I'm not sure what you mean, the page was marked emendata ('proofread') and you found and fixed a lot of errors so you changed it to 'nondum emendata' ('not proofread'), this is not normal. The normal process is the page starts out nondum emendata when text is added from the OCR, the first proofreader does a thorough job and marks it 'emendata', another editor looks it over and hopefully doesn't have to fix much and marks it 'bis lecta'. If there is a significant problem, like an image that isn't working or a formating problem that you don't know how or don't have time to fix, you can mark it 'emendatio difficilis‎'.
    3. We do not have a policy on this (nor really much of anything) but my advice is when the text says 'j' use 'j', anything else is interpretive or an attempt to 'correct' the text; unless we develop a template for j/i, which would be a good thing to do.
    4. There are better ways. You can use {{rule}} or <hr style=/> or you can mark the page as 'emendatio difficilis' and leave an edit summary that says it needs the line.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 04:43, 4 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      1. Well, the page contains a table with one column in Latin and one in French. I lack the technical knowledge though to know if it is feasible to split that between the language versions :)
      2. Ok, then I misunderstood that. --MF-Warburg (disputatio) 18:46, 4 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, probably a little bit late here :) - when a page is transcluded from another language site (like in examples given, from fr.), the right proofread status is "vacuus", since it automatically adds a message indicating the page is on another site and gives link to that other site, allowing to easily go there for correction (much needed on that page for example (many scan errors : 1 for l, etc). --Hsarrazin (disputatio) 03:25, 3 Novembris 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Using the modernisation.js at la.ws to expand shorthand and do other things[recensere]

There are two scripts available that will change characters/words on the fly. One was developed at en.ws primarily to display long-s in either form desired (long-s or s), the other was developed at the multilingual wikisource and is in use at fr.ws, it was intended to display older works in either their original form or a modernized form as desired by the reader. Check it out here: fr:La_Cigale_et_la_Fourmi (in the sidebar under Options d’affichage chooseTexte modernisé and watch the text). It strikes me that we could use either of these or some modification of them to handle the u/v j/i issue as well as shorthand/expanded text. Much of the shorthand isn't displayable as it's not in unicode but expanding it can be somewhat interpretive or at least require a scholarly knowledge of latin. I intend to start creating templates to at least handle tracking shorthand as we need to be able to find it later but I think we should consider the possibilities of these scripts.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 01:06, 6 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Walters Art Museum seeking to partner with WikiSourcers[recensere]

Hi everyone. The Walters Art Museum is looking to work with the WikiSource community to translate and transcribe Gloss on the Lamentations of Jeremiah, a Medieval book. You can find the book here, on the Walters website. The book is in Latin, so this could be a unique partnership between Latin Wikipedia and WikiSource, perhaps. The Walters will need assistance in knowing what type of document needs to be uploaded and where, too. Please ping me if you'd like me to put you in touch directly with the staff member leading this project. The Walters recently donated over 20,000 high resolution photographs to Commons and changed the licensing agreement on their website making everything CC BY SA and/or PD. So this is a leader in the museum world in regards to open culture. Ping me - I hope you can help! SarahStierch (talk) 03:24, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Sarah, please create an account/login with your global account, so we can reply to you more easily.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 15:48, 23 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, Billinghurst posted the above here by copy pasting it from en.ws.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 16:23, 23 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sarah and Dominic put me in touch with the museum on this. There has been some limited discussion at en:Wikisource:Scriptorium#Walters_Art_Museum_seeking_to_partner_with_WikiSourcers. We need a plan to deal with the format, both the illumination and the gloss, the work appears to be three columns but it's really a single wide margin work with a substantial gloss. Someone who can actually read the material will need to align everything properly after it has been transcribed and someone with a very good knowledge of medieval manuscripts will need to perform one of the proofs or the validation. Thoughts?--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 15:46, 23 Novembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please correct my article.[recensere]

Hi! Please view and correct my first article in la Vicifons - Lex Anglorum et Werinorum hoc est Thuringorum. --Averaver (disputatio) 07:17, 29 Decembris 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Different font sizes in texts[recensere]

How should texts like Pagina:Systema naturae 1735.djvu/1 be properly transcribed? I noticed fr: has templates like fr:Modèle:Taille and fr:Modèle:Brn for doing that - do we have such here too? --MF-Warburg (disputatio) 19:54, 28 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

FlaggedRevs translation[recensere]

I've been wondering about we could best translate the FlaggedRevs page statuses (translatable, as all of the software, on translatewiki.net):

  • Checked versions (recensores (editors in English) can mark pages like this) - emendatio probata/examinata ? Emendatio recensa probably is not the best idea, because the edit tab is already called "recensere"
  • Quality versions (revisores (reviewers in English) can mark pages like this) - emendatio qualitatis bonae? emendatio revisata? The page history entries [17] for this use the wording "User X accepted the revision"; so emendatio accepta is another idea. --MF-Warburg (disputatio) 17:53, 1 Februarii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Liber:Ruffhead_-_The_Statutes_at_Large,_1763.djvu[recensere]

I'm currently unable to proceed with this, because it seems the underlying Djvu is missing pages.

However I have a very strong feeling these are missing in the original scans as well.

It would be appreciated if some kind of repair could be undertaken. ShakespeareFan00 (disputatio) 22:36, 28 Februarii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The scans are now patched- but some pages need moving. ShakespeareFan00 (disputatio) 11:43, 1 Martii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Prophetia S.Malachiae Archiepiscopi, de Summis Pontificibus[recensere]

Actual for the conclave 2013 the prophecia with the "last pope". If someone want, i uploaded the pictures: commons:Category:Arnold Wion - Lignum Vitae --Fg68at (disputatio) 17:59, 12 Martii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Convert complex templates to Lua to make them faster and more powerful[recensere]

(Please consider translating this message for the benefit of your fellow Wikimedians)

Greetings. As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech blog or the tech ambassadors list, a new functionality called "Lua" is being enabled on all Wikimedia sites today. Lua is a scripting language that enables you to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates.

If you have questions about how to convert existing templates to Lua (or how to create new ones), we'll be holding two support sessions on IRC next week: one on Wednesday (for Oceania, Asia & America) and one on Friday (for Europe, Africa & America); see m:IRC office hours for the details. If you can't make it, you can also get help at mw:Talk:Lua scripting.

If you'd like to learn about this kind of events earlier in advance, consider becoming a Tech ambassador by subscribing to the mailing list. You will also be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system. 20:06, 13 Martii 2013 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)[reply]

-que abreviation[recensere]

I noticed on this page in plwikisource the "accented q" character (end of 2nd line) which I guess is the -que suffix abbreviation. Do you know if there is a single Unicode character to handle this? Or using q+combining accent is the only way? Is it a commonly used abbreviation? Ankry (disputatio) 06:59, 8 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am not familiar with the acute-q; the article "Dead key" on the English Wikipedia mentions the inability to create this specific character but the possibility of simulating it in unicode; however, it does not reference the purpose of this character. I found a text on Gutenberg where they have referred to "accented q with semicolon" and they have transcribed it as "que" but I haven't yet tracked down the scans to see what they mean by "accented q". Lexicon Abbreviaturarum (Cappelli, 1899) trans. asThe Elements of abbreviation in medieval Latin Paleography (Heimann and Kay, 1982) does not reference an acute-q character at all. The standard abbreviation for 'que' is q followed by a semi-colon or semicolon-like character (q;) sometimes q with a character after it that looks like a cursive z or an handwritten Arabic numeral 3 and occasionally the z/3 character combined with the semicolon. I'll ping a couple of users who actually know Latin to see if they can illuminate this issue further. BTW, I have intended for some time to create a set of templates for abbreviations. I need to get with someone who understands the new options using Lua to see if that would make for better solutions.--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 16:03, 11 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just a further note that Sir Edward Maunde Thompson in Handbook of Greek and Latin Palæography cites the simpler abbreviation q· (· = U+00B7).--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 16:25, 11 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm finding some difficulty in searching for authorities on this as some texts seem to OCR an acute as a "q", such that searching for "acute q" hits on "acute (´)". A similar, though somewhat less serious problem is that there is apparently a disease called "Q" (thus "acute Q" is used in medical texts) and some texts OCR a quarter note as a "q" thus an "accented q" hits these. :-\--Doug.(Disputatio • Conlationes) 17:06, 11 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can you verify my translation?[recensere]

Hello, guys! I'm new here, and I started this page, Proverbia Inferni, which is intended to be a Latin version of W. Blake's Proverbs of Hell. I'd like to know what do you think, if the proverbs I rendered into Latin are good. Also i'd like if someone could link it to the original text in the Wikisource. Thank you. Casquilho (disputatio) 13:10, 22 Iunii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Permission to run a bot once[recensere]

Disputatio conclusa : Flagged per earlier request.

I'd need to run my unflagged bot (Usor:Alebot) once here, to upload into pages of Liber:Agricola De re metallica.djvu an external OCR (the original one in djvu text layer being of very poor quality). In the meantime, while waiting your comments, I'll verify its account. --Alex brollo (disputatio) 12:00, 9 Iulii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that bold users (me in my double identity of Alex and Alebot, Mizardellorsa and Andyniky working about pages of Liber:Agricola De re metallica.djvu are more or less the main users of this project by now; so I hope that Alebot activity didn't hurt this community. Well, thanks for you patience: the preliminary work is done, Alebot can go back into its normal sleeping state. :-)
While working at some test pages of such Liber, I felt the need of some additional, new templates: {{Pt}}, {{Block center}}, {{Center}}, {{Type}}. Please tell me if such new templates must be fixed in their name and/or content, and if they are merely cases of "rediscovering the wheel" since they are similar running templates that I didn't found. --Alex brollo (disputatio) 20:25, 11 Iulii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Transcription policy[recensere]

Doug mentions above in #Transcription_guidelines_for_u.2Fv.2C_i.2Fj that there are no policies, cf. also the possibly similar problem with q(ue). Would not make it sense to adapt e.g. the policy on German WS, esp. generally omit hyphens at a line break in prose? (Not so e.g. in Liber:Vita Sancti Severini.djvu.) 00:34, 5 Septembris 2013 (UTC)

Global personal edit tools[recensere]

I'm testing a set of edit tools whose aim is, to run into any wikisource project and to be personal and easy to custom. If you like to test them take a look to en:User:Alex brollo/Editing tools, you'll find a little bit of doc. I just installed them here (all what is needed is the content of Usor:Alex brollo/common.js and Usor:Alex brollo/PersonalButtons.js, if you'd like to test them copy their content into your personal pages Usor:your_name/common.js and Usor:your_name/PersonalButtons.js and purge deeply. --Alex brollo (disputatio) 20:35, 18 Octobris 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How do you deal with truncated (hyphenated) words in the bottom/top of pages[recensere]

Hello,

I don't know what is the usage here on la: for words like here and here (augur-que).

On fr:, we use a template that automatically joins the 2 parts, while presenting the word like it is in the pages mode (template "Tiret"). Is there something similar here ? is there another solution, like pasting the two parts of the word in one of the two pages ? thanx for your answer, as passing from one wikisource to another is never easy, due to different habits in editing…

--Hsarrazin (disputatio) 03:45, 3 Novembris 2013 (UTC) (you may also answer in French, if you prefer - vous pouvez aussi me répondre en français…)[reply]

There is Template:Pt, I think it does the same of Tiret. Candalua (disputatio) 16:44, 6 Novembris 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Liber:Le_opere_di_Galileo_Galilei_I.djvu[recensere]

I'm going to work on Liber:Le_opere_di_Galileo_Galilei_I.djvu - the first volume of the opera omnia of Italian scientist. Many from his works are in Latin, so I0m going to move the (few) proofread pages from it:Indice:Le_opere_di_Galileo_Galilei_I.djvu here andd to fill with Iwpage template the Italian ones. I'll use my bot even if unflagged - I hope, it will not hurt any of you. --Alex brollo (disputatio) 20:06, 9 Novembris 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A question to la.source community[recensere]

As I told in previous post, I'm uploading here and into it.source volumes from the series Le opere di galileo Galilei. So far, I opened Liber pages from Liber:Le_opere_di_Galileo_Galilei_I.djvu to Liber:Le_opere_di_Galileo_Galilei_VIII.djvu. Now, while refining Liber pages, I see that first ones collect mainly latin texts, while Vol. IV and Vol. VIII have no Latin text, collecting Italian texts only. My question: have I to mark these volumes for deletion, or can be someone interested to have here a Iwpage transclusion of Italian volumes too, just to have here the whole collection of volumes? While waiting for your comments, I let Vol. IV and Vol. VIII as they are. Alex brollo (disputatio) 20:42, 13 Novembris 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New scans[recensere]

Hello,

I uploaded new scans in Latin to Commons, which include OCR. I can help for making DJVU files and OCR. Should I create the indexes? You can also answer in French. Regards, Yann (disputatio) 07:50, 6 Decembris 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Templates list?[recensere]

Is there a list of templates on the Latin Wikisource that includes a list of parameters or some kind of explanation for how to use them? The Category:Formulae page isn't very helpful. QCIC56 (disputatio) 23:43, 11 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Announcement: a new Internet Archive collection[recensere]

Happy to let you know that there's a new wikisource-oriented Internet Archive collection: opallibriantichi, where many books of an interesting Italian library (Opal Libri Antichi) are going to be uploaded after some pre-elaboration. Many of then are Latin books of 16th - 17th century - when Latin was the "international language".

So far, more than 1000 books have been uploaded, 162 being in Latin. --Alex brollo (disputatio) 06:41, 14 Maii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Aranei Svecici[recensere]

Libro "Aranei Svecici" in Vicimediae Communiae habemus. Numquid hic locus est aliquis? --Daniel Mietchen (disputatio) 14:22, 10 Iunii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Using only UploadWizard for uploads[recensere]

Wikimedia Commons logo

Hello! Sorry for writing in English. It was noted that on this wiki upload is not fully functional for users, who will experience a very difficult and/or illegal uploading. In fact, the licenses/copyright tags dropdown is empty, making it hard or impossible to comply with copyright requirements during upload itself.

Presumably, you don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. I propose to have

so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.

All this will get done around 2014-07-03.

  1. If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list. Remember also to create MediaWiki:Licenses locally with any content (see a simple example), or uploads will be soon disabled anyway by MediaWiki itself (starting in version 1.24wmf11).
  2. To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.

Nemo 13:09, 19 Iunii 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Magna Carta[recensere]

May somebody please validate Magna Carta? There are only 11 pages. Thanks in advance. Hausratte (disputatio) 11:26, 17 Octobris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Global AbuseFilter[recensere]

Hello,

AbuseFilter is a MediaWiki extension used to detect likely abusive behavior patterns, like pattern vandalism and spam. In 2013, Global AbuseFilters were enabled on a limited set of wikis including Meta-Wiki, MediaWiki.org, Wikispecies and (in early 2014) all the "small wikis". Recently, global abuse filters were enabled on "medium sized wikis" as well. These filters are currently managed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and have shown to be very effective in preventing mass spam attacks across Wikimedia projects. However, there is currently no policy on how the global AbuseFilters will be managed although there are proposals. There is an ongoing request for comment on policy governing the use of the global AbuseFilters. In the meantime, specific wikis can opt out of using the global AbuseFilter. These wikis can simply add a request to this list on Meta-Wiki. More details can be found on this page at Meta-Wiki. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on m:Talk:Global AbuseFilter.

Thanks,

PiRSquared17, Glaisher

— 17:34, 14 Novembris 2014 (UTC)

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