Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera X

Invitation from Wiki Loves Love 2019

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Love is an important subject for humanity and it is expressed in different cultures and regions in different ways across the world through different gestures, ceremonies, festivals and to document expression of this rich and beautiful emotion, we need your help so we can share and spread the depth of cultures that each region has, the best of how people of that region, celebrate love.

Wiki Loves Love (WLL) is an international photography competition of Wikimedia Commons with the subject love testimonials happening in the month of February.

The primary goal of the competition is to document love testimonials through human cultural diversity such as monuments, ceremonies, snapshot of tender gesture, and miscellaneous objects used as symbol of love; to illustrate articles in the worldwide free encyclopedia Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) projects.

The theme of 2019 iteration is Celebrations, Festivals, Ceremonies and rituals of love.

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There are several prizes to grab. Hope to see you spreading love this February with Wiki Loves Love!

Kind regards,

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Imagine... the sum of all love!

--MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 10:13, 27 Decembris 2018 (UTC)

FileExporter beta feature

Coming soon: the beta feature FileExporter

A new beta feature will soon be released on all wikis: The FileExporter. It allows exports of files from a local wiki to Wikimedia Commons, including their file history and page history. Which files can be exported is defined by each wiki's community: Please check your wiki's configuration file if you want to use this feature.

The FileExporter has already been a beta feature on mediawiki.org, meta.wikimedia, deWP, faWP, arWP, koWP and on wikisource.org. After some functionality was added, it's now becoming a beta feature on all wikis. Deployment is planned for January 16. More information can be found on the project page.

As always, feedback is highly appreciated. If you want to test the FileExporter, please activate it in your user preferences. The best place for feedback is the central talk page. Thank you from Wikimedia Deutschland's Technical Wishes project.

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 09:41, 14 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC)

No editing for 30 minutes on 17 January

You will not be able to edit the wikis for up to 30 minutes on 17 January 07:00 UTC. This is because of a database problem that has to be fixed immediately. You can still read the wikis. Some wikis are not affected. They don't get this message. You can see which wikis are not affected on this page. Most wikis are affected. The time you can not edit might be shorter than 30 minutes. /Johan (WMF)

18:47, 16 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC)

Unicode-Zeichen, side notes, Altgriechisch-Kenntnisse?

1. Wie kann ich Unicode-Zeichen setzen, damit sie immer korrekt angezeigt werden? z. B. «q́ m̄ n̄ ᶃ ǵ,»? Auf Disputatio Usoris:Zabia#Test erscheinen sie fehlerhaft. Hier allerdings werden sie korrekt angezeigt. Zabia (disputatio) 12:37, 21 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC)

2.Wie kann ich «left sidenote» setzen, damit sie nicht außerhalb des Satzspiegels erscheinen (Beispiel: Disputatio Usoris:Zabia#Test vor «text text text »), und analog wie «right sidenote»?

3. In Kepler «Somnium» wie in seiner Plutarch-Übersetzung «In Orbe Facie de Lunae» kommt auch Altgriechisch vor. Besonders auch Ligaturen wie z.B. ȣ ȣ́ und ähnliche. Da es keine Sonderzeichen für einige gibt, sollten diese alle aufgelöst werden (ȣ zu ον).

4. Gibt es hier in der lateinischen Wikisource Kenner, die meine altgriechische Transkription nach Vorlage korrekt korrigieren können? Und wenn ja, kann ich da auf Unterstützung rechnen?

Sorry, ich sprech nur Deutsch und mittelmäßig Englisch. Zabia (disputatio) 12:37, 21 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC)

Harmonices mundi libri V - Liber I

Hier werden die nota marginalis im Text falsch dargestellt. Nur auf den einzelnen Seiten sieht man sie korrekt. Sollen diese auf left sidenote geändert werden? Zabia (disputatio) 11:00, 25 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC)

I've just added the opening and closing formulae of sidenotes, can you check if it's now ok ? From where I am, it seems to be ok :) SyB~Anicium (disputatio) 20:44, 26 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much! SyB~Anicium" That looks okay. Greetings Zabia (disputatio) 08:52, 27 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC)

Suppression de ma page de discussion

Bonsoir,

après m'être complétement trompé entre page de discussion de mon profil et brouillon, j'aimerais demander la suppression de la page de discussion, et des redirections associées. Comment puis-je le faire ? Par ailleurs, je ne trouve pas d'onglet "Brouillon". Pourrait-on m'indiquer comment accéder à une page Sandbox ?

Merci d'avance !

Thucydide 2000 (disputatio) 22:29, 18 Februarii 2019 (UTC)

Bonjour Thucydide 2000,

pour te créer un brouillon, il suffit de créer un lien rouge en sous-page personnelle, comme ça : Usor:Thucydide 2000/brouillon - tu peux te créer plusieurs sous-pages perso où tu pourras travailler sans t'emmêler :)

je supprime ton actuelle pdd, ou plus exactement Alma Redemptoris Mater vers laquelle il y avait une redirection. Ta pdd ne contient donc plus que le message d'accueil et de bienvenue ! --Hsarrazin (disputatio) 08:44, 21 Februarii 2019 (UTC)

Talk to us about talking

The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.

We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.

We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.

We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.

You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:

1. First, sign up your group here.
2. Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
3. Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
   1. When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
   2. What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
   3. What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
   4. What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
   5. What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
4. Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.

You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.

Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.

You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.

Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you.

Trizek (WMF) 15:01, 21 Februarii 2019 (UTC)

Read-only mode for up to 30 minutes on 11 April

You will not be able to edit most Wikimedia wikis for up to 30 minutes on 11 April 05:00 UTC. This is because of a hardware problem. You can still read the wikis. You can see which wikis are affected. The time you can not edit might be shorter than 30 minutes. /Johan (WMF)

10:56, 8 Aprilis 2019 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Medium-Term Plan feedback request

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The Wikimedia Foundation has published a Medium-Term Plan proposal covering the next 3–5 years. We want your feedback! Please leave all comments and questions, in any language, on the talk page, by April 20. Thank you! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 17:35, 12 Aprilis 2019 (UTC)

Categoria:Deletiones Propositae

Could an admin review the proposed deletions, some of which have been there from 2017? --Rschen7754 06:12, 27 Aprilis 2019 (UTC)

Newbicae quaestiones (pars prima)

Hi, I don't know were to look for this... when transcribing a text, am I supposed to expand the abbreviations I find in the original text, i.e. & -> et, Gręci -> Græci, eodē -> eodem and so on (well, at least when I'm pretty sure what the abbreviatioin stands for)? And if so, should I use the Template:Pt, like {{Pt|Gręci|Græci}}, or some other method?
And another question, this one really newbica, how can I resolve the notes on the left/right margin, such as the *al frigus scribbled there? is there a template for that? Thank you very much, I will write more questions soon :P --Barbaking (disputatio) 07:31, 16 Maii 2019 (UTC)

For sidenotes you can use Formula:Left sidenote and Formula:Right sidenote, though since they're noted in the body in your text a standard {{subst:dtag|nowiki|}} footnote might be more appropriate. The Latin Wikisource doesn't appear to have any specific guidelines on transcription—I'm new here too—but the English project's guideline seems to be followed here too: "Special characters such as accents and ligatures should be used wherever they appear in the original document, if reasonably easy to accomplish." So I would retain the abbreviations if they're available in Unicode. For what it's worth, though, looking at the texts you're transcribing the nasal consonant accent is actually a tilde and not a macron (i.e. eodẽ). —Nizolan (disputatio) 20:27, 16 Maii 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks for your hints! :) I was in doubt about é, ē, ẽ or whatever, I will go for ẽ (and for {{subst:dtag|nowiki|}}whenever I find a rooted note). (of course I am still open for more suggestions sould they come). bye, --Barbaking (disputatio) 07:34, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC)

Graecum est...

Salve, I would very much appreciate an help in transcribing and/or reviewing some Greek words I happen to find in this book. I really can't read Greek, so the words I tried to transcribe, when I tried to, have a good chance of being misspelled. I am collecting the pages with Greek occurrences, whenever I find them, in this page. I know I'm asking a lot, but I will be grateful to anyone who would check even a single page. Many thanks, :) --Barbaking (disputatio) 19:56, 22 Maii 2019 (UTC)

Broken templates?

Formula:Box See talk page please... ShakespeareFan00 (disputatio) 14:45, 8 Augusti 2019 (UTC)

De pronuntiatione linguae gallicae (Claudius a Sancto Vinculo)/Capitulum L

Lint repair, but needs a scan to confirm what SHOULD be italic and bold. Or a second reviewer. ShakespeareFan00 (disputatio) 07:49, 9 Augusti 2019 (UTC)

Update on the consultation about office actions

Hello all,

Last month, the Wikimedia Foundation's Trust & Safety team announced a future consultation about partial and/or temporary office actions. We want to let you know that the draft version of this consultation has now been posted on Meta.

This is a draft. It is not intended to be the consultation itself, which will be posted on Meta likely in early September. Please do not treat this draft as a consultation. Instead, we ask your assistance in forming the final language for the consultation.

For that end, we would like your input over the next couple of weeks about what questions the consultation should ask about partial and temporary Foundation office action bans and how it should be formatted. Please post it on the draft talk page. Our goal is to provide space for the community to discuss all the aspects of these office actions that need to be discussed, and we want to ensure with your feedback that the consultation is presented in the best way to encourage frank and constructive conversation.

Please visit the consultation draft on Meta-wiki and leave your comments on the draft’s talk page about what the consultation should look like and what questions it should ask.

Thank you for your input! -- The Trust & Safety team 08:03, 16 Augusti 2019 (UTC)

epub export links need to change

On Wikisource en these look like:

• https://tools.wmflabs.org/wsexport/tool/book.php?lang=en&format=epub-3&page=Charities%2FVolume_13%2FNumber_10%2FThe_Bohemians_in_Chicago

Here, on the sidebar eg at Utopia they do not resolve and look like:

• http://wsexport.wmflabs.org/tool/book.php?lang=la&format=epub&page=Utopia

However, this works fine:

• https://tools.wmflabs.org/wsexport/tool/book.php?lang=la&format=epub&page=Utopia

Hope that helps JimKillock (disputatio) 17:00, 16 Augusti 2019 (UTC)

New tools and IP masking

Hey everyone,

The Wikimedia Foundation wants to work on two things that affect how we patrol changes and handle vandalism and harassment. We want to make the tools that are used to handle bad edits better. We also want to get better privacy for unregistered users so their IP addresses are no longer shown to everyone in the world. We would not hide IP addresses until we have better tools for patrolling.

We have an idea of what tools could be working better and how a more limited access to IP addresses would change things, but we need to hear from more wikis. You can read more about the project on Meta and post comments and feedback. Now is when we need to hear from you to be able to give you better tools to handle vandalism, spam and harassment.

You can post in your language if you can't write in English.

Johan (WMF)

14:19, 21 Augusti 2019 (UTC)

Template:No source

Isn't it time to import the No source template into here? --Eugrus (disputatio) 00:17, 28 Septembris 2019 (UTC)

The consultation on partial and temporary Foundation bans just started

Hello,

In a recent statement, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees requested that staff hold a consultation to "re-evaluat[e] or add community input to the two new office action policy tools (temporary and partial Foundation bans)".

Accordingly, the Foundation's Trust & Safety team invites all Wikimedians to join this consultation and give their feedback from 30 September to 30 October.

How can you help?

• Suggest how partial and temporary Foundation bans should be used, if they should (eg: On all projects, or only on a subset);

• Give ideas about how partial and temporary Foundation bans should ideally implemented, if they should be; and/or

• Propose changes to the existing Office Actions policy on partial and temporary bans.

We offer our thanks in advance for your contributions, and we hope to get as much input as possible from community members during this consultation!

-- Kbrown (WMF) 17:14, 30 Septembris 2019 (UTC)

Feedback wanted on Desktop Improvements project

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Hello. The Readers Web team at the WMF will work on some improvements to the desktop interface over the next couple of years. The goal is to increase usability without removing any functionality. We have been inspired by changes made by volunteers, but that currently only exist as local gadgets and user scripts, prototypes, and volunteer-led skins. We would like to begin the process of bringing some of these changes into the default experience on all Wikimedia projects.

We are currently in the research stage of this project and are looking for ideas for improvements, as well as feedback on our current ideas and mockups. So far, we have performed interviews with community members at Wikimania. We have gathered lists of previous volunteer and WMF work in this area. We are examining possible technical approaches for such changes.

We would like individual feedback on the following:

• Identifying focus areas for the project we have not yet discovered
• Expanding the list of existing gadgets and user scripts that are related to providing a better desktop experience. If you can think of some of these from your wiki, please let us know
• Feedback on the ideas and mockups we have collected so far

We would also like to gather a list of wikis that would be interested in being test wikis for this project - these wikis would be the first to receive the updates once we’re ready to start building.

When giving feedback, please consider the following goals of the project:

• Make it easier for readers to focus on the content
• Provide easier access to everyday actions (e.g. search, language switching, editing)
• Put things in logical and useful places
• Increase consistency in the interface with other platforms - mobile web and the apps
• Eliminate clutter
• Plan for future growth

As well as the following constraints:

• Not touching the content - no work will be done in terms of styling templates or to the structure of page contents themselves
• Not removing any functionality - things might move around, but all navigational items and other functionality currently available by default will remain
• No drastic changes to the layout - we're taking an evolutionary approach to the changes and want the site to continue feeling familiar to readers and editors

Please give all feedback (in any language) at mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements

After this round of feedback, we plan on building a prototype of suggested changes based on the feedback we receive. You’ll hear from us again asking for feedback on this prototype.

Thank you! Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

07:15, 16 Octobris 2019 (UTC)

Community Wishlist 2020

The 2020 Community Wishlist Survey is now open! This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on November 11, 2019, or comment on other proposals to help make them better.

This year, we’re exclusively focusing on smaller projects (i.e., Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage, and Wikinews). We want to help these projects and provide meaningful improvements to diverse communities. If you’re a member of any of these projects, please participate in the survey! To submit proposals, see the guidelines on the survey page. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals!

IFried (WMF) 19:30, 4 Novembris 2019 (UTC)

IMPORTANT: Admin activity review

Hello. A policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc. ) was adopted by global community consensus in 2013. According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis with no inactivity policy. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the admin activity review.

We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):

1. MF-Warburg (administrator)

These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.

However, if you as a community would like to create your own activity review process superseding the global one, want to make another decision about these inactive rights holders, or already have a policy that we missed, then please notify the stewards on Meta-Wiki so that we know not to proceed with the rights review on your wiki. Thanks, --علاء (disputatio) 10:58, 8 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Folklore

Hello Folks,

Wiki Loves Love is back again in 2020 iteration as Wiki Loves Folklore from 1 February, 2020 - 29 February, 2020. Join us to celebrate the local cultural heritage of your region with the theme of folklore in the international photography contest at Wikimedia Commons. Images, videos and audios representing different forms of folk cultures and new forms of heritage that haven’t otherwise been documented so far are welcome submissions in Wiki Loves Folklore. Learn more about the contest at Meta-Wiki and Commons.

Kind regards,
Wiki Loves Folklore International Team
— Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk)
sent using MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 06:14, 18 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC)

Movement Learning and Leadership Development Project

Hello

The Wikimedia Foundation’s Community Development team is seeking to learn more about the way volunteers learn and develop into the many different roles that exist in the movement. Our goal is to build a movement informed framework that provides shared clarity and outlines accessible pathways on how to grow and develop skills within the movement. To this end, we are looking to speak with you, our community to learn about your journey as a Wikimedia volunteer. Whether you joined yesterday or have been here from the very start, we want to hear about the many ways volunteers join and contribute to our movement.

To learn more about the project, please visit the Meta page. If you are interested in participating in the project, please complete this simple Google form. Although we may not be able to speak to everyone who expresses interest, we encourage you to complete this short form if you are interested in participating!

-- LMiranda (WMF) (talk) 19:01, 22 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC)

Wikisource Conference in Warsaw

Dear Wikisource Community,

Meeting the Wikisource community expectations, we are working with Wikimedia Polska and Wikimedia Foundation on organiziing the 2nd Wikisource Conference in Warsaw. We already had a survey that showed high interest in the Conference within the community. We also had recently a meeting on the conference organization process and its requirements. However, we are still at a very early stage of the Conference organization process. But we are hoping this event will happen in September this year.

In order to apply for Wikimedia Foundation support, we need some input from the community about the Conference goals and the community expectations. If you are a wikisourcian, you wish to participate the conference or you wish to help the Wikisource community that the conference take place, please fill the short survey linked below before January 29 (due to short deadline for grant applications). Please, also share this request among Your communities. Here is the link to the survey

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf7FnFgMLPHeyWtBqjgXwLDYvh5vxeTnsZ0OIjTdSDrZlX0PA/viewform

Feel free to contact us, if you have any questions, suggestions, proposals, or if you wish to help us in any other way.

On behalf of the Organizing Commitee,

Nicolas Vigneron

Satdeep Gill

Ankry

Editathon Barii

Ave fratres! Barii copiosa scripto (anglice “editathon”) de Vicipedia Vicifonte apud Lyceum scientiae facenda est. Alumnii scholae, cum magistri auxilio, paginam/librum recensebunt. Vestrum auxilium et vestram inspectionem peto.--FerdiMMV_[Epistulae] 20:32, 17 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Ferdi2005:, I think this is a cool idea :). I don't know if it has never be done before on la.source, but collaborations/editathons with schools are fairly common on it.wikisource (see it:Wikisource:Collaborazioni), and I personally took part in one of them a couple years ago (this one). So, count on me for help :). Do you already have a book in mind for the editathon? I could offer some suggestions if needed... (PS: no, sorry, I'm not going to translate this in latin :P) --Barbaking (disputatio) 10:04, 18 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Rivista italiana di numismatica 1898

Salve !

I'm dealing with Latin pages on an Italian book on it.source (Cf. Indice:Rivista italiana di numismatica 1898.djvu). Actually it's a whole chapter, starting from p. 385.

It's ok for you if I create the book here, and transclude the rest of the pages? Another solution is to create only the chapter in Latin here (but I'll need some help). Bene vale --Ruthven (disputatio) 07:37, 19 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

ciao @Ruthven: hai provato a chiedere pareri su it.source, e vedere cosa consigliano loro? Per quanto mi risulta, di solito qui su la.source si evita di inserire materiale non in latino, e si crea un indice tipo questo; però magari di là sanno darti un parere migliore... per la cronaca, io ho un problema opposto, con una cinquantina di pagine in italiano in un libro latino (e al momento lo sto risolvendo non guardando e passando oltre :P) --Barbaking (disputatio) 08:33, 19 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

@Barbaking: È esattamente quello che volevo fare: avere unicamente le pagine in latino qui ed il resto visibile mediante {{iwpage}}. Così qui ci sarebbe unicamente il materiale in latino (ed un paio di frasi in italiano, vabbe'). Vado avanti con la creazione dell'indice aka Liber, seguendo il modello de te indicatomi? --Ruthven (disputatio) 10:40, 19 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

@Ruthven: secondo me si, vai pure e fammi sapere se ti serve una mano per qualcosa (qui è tutto un po' più "primitivo" che su it.s... comunque puoi usare direttamente i template italiani per l'indice, Template:Indice sommario funziona) --Barbaking (disputatio) 10:54, 19 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Ave Barbaking. Il tuo problema lo posso risolvere in modo analogo, ma specularmente. Creiamo l'indice su itsource e lì fai le pagine in italiano, che verranno trascluse qui. Se vuoi, nei prossimi giorni ci metto mano e poi ti pingo. --Ruthven (disputatio) 13:01, 19 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Ho creato il libro su it.source: Indice:Ioannes Baptista a Vico - Opera latina tomus I - Mediolani. Devo ancora inserire tutti i rimandi a la.source, ma la struttura c'è. Puoi editare le pagine coi numeri (quelle in italiano) su it.source: si vedranno anche qui.

Per quanto riguarda Liber:Rivista italiana di numismatica 1898.djvu, non saprei se creare nel namespace principale unicamente il capitolo in latino oppure tutto quanto. Penso la prima... Tu che dici? Bene vale --Ruthven (disputatio) 08:56, 26 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

@Ruthven: grazie mille per l'indice su it.s, ci lavorerò un po' a salti alternando fra qui e lì :). Quanto alla domanda, penso anche io che in ns0 sia meglio creare solo il capitolo in latino, sempre come si fa ad es. con i libri con traduzione a fronte. vale, --Barbaking (disputatio) 11:16, 26 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Perfectum est. Rivista italiana di numismatica 1898/La zecca di Bologna <- Vedi se vi va bene, altrimenti sposta pure. --Ruthven (disputatio) 15:34, 26 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

@Ruthven: penso vada bene così... non mi pare il caso di inventarci noi un titolo in latino xD --Barbaking (disputatio) 15:58, 26 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Ps. @Ruthven: ma tanto per ridere, le pagine da 399 in poi che lingua sarebbe? xDD --Barbaking (disputatio) 16:15, 26 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Mah, mezzo italiano, mezzo latino? ^^ --Ruthven (disputatio) 16:27, 26 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Needing help with a work that is missing pages

We discovered today that a work we are transcribing is missing two pages. The PDF linked here is missing pages 39 and 40 found in the original manuscript.

The pages are available in other digital scans available at the Internet Archive. For the missing pages, consult here: https://archive.org/details/LibraVeritatisEtDePaschateTractatus/page/n411/mode/2up

We need some help updating the PDF at the Wikimedia Commons and adjusting the page numbers here without losing any of the transcribed content. https://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Liber:Liber_Rituum_Paschalium.pdf -- Aharonium (disputatio) 06:24, 22 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Aharonium:, probably the simplest (or maybe the laziest) way to do this is to edit the pdf, adding the missing pages taken from the other source you found and uploading it as a new version of the old file. This way page numbers up to the added pages should not change, and we wouldn’t have to move everything. I will try, but you will probably have to wait till Monday (I do not have a pdf editor in the pc I am using right now). --Barbaking (disputatio) 07:28, 22 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Barbaking. This was my initial idea -- but I stopped myself as I really don't know enough about the backend of ProofreadPage and I was worried that by updating the PDF at the Wikimedia Commons, I would throw off (or inadvertently delete) the associated transcription text for each page here at Latin Wikisource. -- Aharonium (disputatio) 01:12, 23 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

@Aharonium: ok, I fixed the .pdf file and moved the pages that needed to be moved, you can review the result, but I think I didn't miss anything. I had to move some pages manually (e.g. by cut-and-paste) since I can't suppress the redirects after moving, and there was no other option (I will probably ask for an administrator flag soon, it would have helped). I also fixed the index page and the first page of the book, putting page numbers and footnotes in the hader and footer boxes (in the edit toolbar, proofread tools and then the icon). This way, they won't be transcluded with the text in ns0. Let me know if everything is okay or if you need something else. Vale, --Barbaking (disputatio) 11:50, 24 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

PS: in any case, as a general rule you can't inadvertently delete anything on wikimedia sites (and even if, every change can be undone). So, don't worry about being bold :) --Barbaking (disputatio) 11:53, 24 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

@Barbaking: Thank you so much! -- for the help and also with the general rule. --Aharonium (disputatio) 20:33, 25 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Deletion request: Liber:Index:Colloquia familiaria et Encomium moriae - Desiderius Erasmus.pdf

I've created a new version of this with a Djvu file at Liber:Erasmi Colloquia Familiaria Et Encomium Moriae.djvu which will work better for transcription. JimKillock (disputatio) 17:36, 23 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Done. Salve! --Zyephyrus (disputatio) 13:57, 26 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Template:center request

Hi there, I've been using Template:Center on other Wikisource projects (en) - can we have it here? JimKillock (disputatio) 19:46, 23 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

My mistake, it works fine, just not with English spelling! JimKillock (disputatio) 20:07, 23 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Template:incomplete request

I tried to use Template:incomplete to link a mock up of a book to the transcription I am doing. How do I do this at Vicifons? Is there a different template to use? JimKillock (disputatio)

Hi @JimKillock: what is this template supposed to do? It is possible that it is already here, maybe with another name, or maybe not, and in that case it can be imported/created, if need be. Ps: I nominated Liber:Index:Colloquia familiaria et Encomium moriae - Desiderius Erasmus.pdf for speed deletion, since you moved it to a new title —Barbaking (disputatio) 20:46, 23 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! On wikisource: <noscript>{ {incomplete | source=[ [ Index:Cothvrnvlvs three short Latin historical plays for the use of beginners.djvu|transcription project ] ] } }</noscript> it links to the source pages for the original document, while other scripts assemble the page contents onto the pages (I will try that next). JimKillock (disputatio) 21:11, 23 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Hi @JimKillock:, I created Formula:Perficiendum updated Formula:Infectus (tested here, where you can also find some usage examples.) I hope this is what you needed... --Barbaking (disputatio) 08:48, 24 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Update: turned out there already was a Formula:Infectus, used in ten or so books, so I moved the code there; redirects from Template:Incomplete or Perficiendum still work though --Barbaking (disputatio) 13:15, 24 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Next I'll try setting up the chapters, etc! JimKillock (disputatio) 23:56, 24 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Additional interface for edit conflicts on talk pages

Sorry, for writing this text in English. If you could help to translate it, it would be appreciated.

You might know the new interface for edit conflicts (currently a beta feature). Now, Wikimedia Germany is designing an additional interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This interface is shown to you when you write on a discussion page and another person writes a discussion post in the same line and saves it before you do. With this additional editing conflict interface you can adjust the order of the comments and edit your comment. We are inviting everyone to have a look at the planned feature. Let us know what you think on our central feedback page! -- For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) 14:15, 26 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Page content needs to split across chapters

Hi there, the book I am transcribing utilises very limited space, with the result that natural chapter breaks display in the same page. For example: Pagina:Erasmi_Colloquia_Familiaria_Et_Encomium_Moriae.djvu/14

What do I do about this, if I want to split the page content (at PERCONTANDI FORMA) on the transcribed product into two chapters (on two wiki pages)? JimKillock (disputatio) 14:27, 29 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

@JimKillock: <section begin=1 /> TEXT OF CHAPTER 1<section end=1 /> <section begin=2 />TEXT OF CHAPTER 2<section end=2 />, etc.. Then, when you transclude say the first chapter, <pages index="whatever" from=whatever to=watever fromsection=1 tosection=1 />. See i.e. De rebus gestis Antonii Caraphaei/Liber primus/Caput V, which transludes chapter V, starting in Pagina:Ioannes Baptista a Vico - Opera latina tomus I - Mediolani, 1835.djvu/196 and ending in Pagina:Ioannes Baptista a Vico - Opera latina tomus I - Mediolani, 1835.djvu/198. --Barbaking (disputatio) 14:46, 29 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Gratias tibi ago, @Barbaking:! That seems to work :) JimKillock (disputatio) 16:11, 29 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Split words across pages

This makes no sense to me; I am finding the editor is adding an extra line break \n at the end of the text area; this means I am getting words with spaces like "au dis" across the page breaks. Originally they were hyphenated across the pages. If anyone has a solution (don't use Safari? use something else?) please let me know. JimKillock (disputatio) 21:04, 29 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

these cases are usually dealt with Formula:Pt, which works like: {{Pt|this text won’t be transcluded in ns0|this text will}}. So, say you have “lauda-“ at the end of a page, and then “tio” in the next: in the first you will write {{Pt|lauda-|}} (meaning the iphenated word is not transcluded); in the next {{Pt|tio|laudatio}}. This way, in the pages you will visualize the splitted word, but only the “whole” word in the second page will be transcluded in ns0. —Barbaking (disputatio) 23:18, 29 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, that works well! (I am getting some slight errors in the way the pages are presented in the book chapter itself, but nothing that matters to a user.) JimKillock (disputatio) 12:14, 1 Martii 2020 (UTC)

Should I use "ſ" or "s"? + request for help

Hello. I created Vulgata Sixtina, and the only edition of this book uses ſ. Do I have to also use "ſ" or can I transcribe those ſ as "s"?
Also, I tried to finally turn Vulgata Clementina into a proper project. Most of the text can be found on VulSearch, so does someone have a bot or script to import directly from VulSearch while keeping the formatting and putting the chapters with "Caput X" (e.g. with the ch. 1 here)?
I am also not very used to Wikisource, so please check my work I did on those works so far. Veverve (disputatio) 04:53, 1 Martii 2020 (UTC)
Also, can someone delete this? Veverve (disputatio) 05:00, 1 Martii 2020 (UTC)

hi @Veverve: about the long s ſ, I don’t think there is an actual rule on la.wikisource but I would strongly suggest to transcribe it as “s”, which is the guideline used on the Italian Wikisource, but at the very least it should be transcribed ſ, an not f (which is of course a mess, since I don’t know how to write ſ other tan by copy-pasting, another point in favor of transcribing it as “s”) —Barbaking (disputatio) 09:03, 1 Martii 2020 (UTC)

Clean up pre-2019 or 2020 items

I'm not sure who is responsible but a clean up to archive of older comments would help navigability a bit. JimKillock (disputatio) 12:06, 1 Martii 2020 (UTC)

@JimKillock: done. Veverve (disputatio) 14:29, 1 Martii 2020 (UTC)

Magistratus mandatum peto

Hi, just to let everyone know, I am asking form admin permissions on the project, request here. I hope to get at least some answers (not necessarily answers in support, just answers at all!): respondete, si vobis placet :) vale, --Barbaking (disputatio) 16:48, 17 Martii 2020 (UTC)

Display layouts and default fonts

Hi there, how do I fix a (default) layout style font? I worked out that <div class=text> does the main job, but at least on my browser, the layout on Colloquia familiaria, Cothvrnvlvs and Ólim randomly changes between serif and sans-serif fonts. Is there a way to fix that the page displays either serif or sans-serif fonts? JimKillock (disputatio) 07:41, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC)

Have you tried reloading the page? The font on the ns0 should be serif by default; on my browser (firefox) it looks that way, but it takes ~1 second to be displayed... when opening a page, I basically see the sans-serif version for about a second, that then automatically changes to serif; I suppose it is the time it takes for the CSS to kick in. If you really see the layout differently on different pages, something is wrong, but unfortunately to fix that we need someone that actually understands CSSs (which is not me :P) --Barbaking (disputatio) 08:47, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying, it seems to be my browser (cache? ad blockers?). I tried Firefox and it does basically work ok with that. So I’ll either ignore it or change my browser! JimKillock (disputatio) 09:30, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC)

Formula:ScriptorCitatus

on the italian wikisource, they have a (<POV>super cool</POV>) template, it:Template:AutoreCitato, (QuotedAuthor) which is used to generate a link to an author quoted in a text/page. It also generate a standard category collecting all the references to the said author, like it:Categoria:Testi in cui è citato Marco Tullio Cicerone (texts in which Marco Tullio Cicerone is quoted). I would like to import this template here on la, and start building up the resulting category tree; mantaining the Italian layout, the template would work like:

{{ScriptorCitatus|Marcus Tullius Cicero|Ciceronem}}, generating a link to Scriptor:Marcus Tullius Cicero, and adding the page in [[Categoria:Paginae quibus Marcus Tullius Cicero citatus est]], if the template is in the ns:Page, or [[Categoria:Textus quibus Marcus Tullius Cicero citatus est]] if it is in a (transcluded) text in ns:0.

I think this would at least improve the internal cross-referencing of the project, and would be good for data analysis ("how many texts do we have quoting Ennius?"). Let me know if someone is in favour/oppose to this proposal (comments are of course appreciated); I will leave this post here for some days before eventually proceding. vale, --Barbaking (disputatio) 10:46, 13 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

P.S.: I am going with the word citatus for "quoted", since the latin name for wikiquote is "vicicitatio", it seems appropriate... --Barbaking (disputatio) 10:50, 13 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

As an active user in it.source I am more than interested in this adoption. BUt if anyone disagrred I would not be too surprised: this type of hypertextuality is open to POV (shall an author be preferred to another if linked? Why isn't my preferred author linked to a text). In my experience these arguments are very weak, even more when involving classical authors. Let's wait for comments. - OrbiliusMagister (disputatio) 13:06, 14 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Scriptores per civitates

Hi, just to let everyone know, I created Categoria:Scriptores per civitates digesti (autors by country), and filled the subcats with our Scriptores. Most Wikisources have this kind of categorization, so I went bold. Just please remember, when creating a new author's page, to add the appropriate "country" category... they are all in the form Scriptores + latin country name in genitive (cfr. w:Categoria:Homines per civitates digesti on Vicifons). vale, --Barbaking (disputatio) 13:03, 16 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

epub export breaks with multi-level (sub)chapters

Hi there, I developed a structure with sub chapters in this Cothvrnvlvs transcription.

• Cothvrnvlvs/Veturia is the first play; this links to Cothvrnvlvs/Veturia/Scaena I, then Cothvrnvlvs/Veturia/Scaena II etc; then the second and third plays are structured in the same way. The page order tool at the top and bottom of each page (hopefully!) navigates through the plays and scenes.

I broke up the plays to scenes as the web pages were very long.

The epub however seems to omit all the scenes, leaving only the top level pages. Any ideas why this may be and how I should fix it? JimKillock (disputatio) 20:35, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

I think I have sorted this out by modifying the contents on the title page; the export seems to follow the order of the links on this page. JimKillock (disputatio) 20:46, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

This problem exists on all Wikisource projects, though not everyone is aware of it. I only realized the problem a few weeks ago myself. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 22:34, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Codex Amiatinus

I have located an 1854 reprint copy of the text of the Codex Amiatinus, produced in 700 A.D., and which is the earliest surviving complete manuscript of the Latin Vulgate version of the Christian Bible. I have uploaded a copy to Commons and started the Liber:Codex Amiatinus novum testamentum latine (1854).djvu

Currently, Vicifons has no copy of the Bible in Latin, and this hinders progress at Wikiquote, Wiktionary, and the Wikipedias, who would all benefit from having the text.

The only drawback of this particular edition is that the volume contains only the Novum Testamentum of the Codex, but since there is no copy at all and since a 19th-century copy will have text easier for OCR to handle it seems a fair trade.

My intent is to complete three or four keys portions from the point of view of Wiktionary, providing text that can be used for quotations to demonstrate the meanings of Latin words in a Late-Latin context.

I will need help getting the transcription started because I am unfamiliar with the Formula names on Vicifons. I am used to working on the English Wikisource. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 22:11, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: first, thank you for your work and for every contribute you will want to give to this project. I started by adding some chapter subdivision to the index; the question is if we want to split each Gospel by chapter (Like Mattheus - I, Mattheus - II and so on). It would be probably better to do so, but it will take some time to be done :) Is there anything else in particular you need? --Barbaking (disputatio) 13:21, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

No, I do not think separating by chapter would be better. This will make it very hard on people who simply want a download. We can use anchors for chapters, rather than separate pages. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 14:59, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Ps @EncycloPetey: I also transcribed page 70, see if you can find some hints there... I used {{VBibliae}} for the verses' numbers --Barbaking (disputatio) 14:31, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for that. I did not know which template to use for verse numbers. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 14:59, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

However, I still have questions about two things that I see in the text: (1) What are the parenthetical number pairs which appear in the text. For example, on page 70 verse 1 has a (1, 3.) as well. I could not find an explanation of this notation, though perhaps I simply missed it when I scanned through the front matter of the volume.

Also, There appears to be an interpunctus from time to time. It is not a scanning artifact since there are pages where the line starts with the interpunctus and the alignment of the line is shifted because of it. This was not transcribed when Barbaking did page 70, but you can see one in the image, in verse 17, the middle of the third line. For these I also did not spot an explanation in the front matter. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 14:59, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: I do not understand as well, but I'm in no way an expert on this matter... I didn't even notice the interpunctus; and I wondered as well about the parenthesis (the (3, 5) near the bottom of the page is even more obscure, since it is completely out of numeration with everything else...) Maybe we could ask Wikipedia's WikiProject Bible if we really want to find this out... --Barbaking (disputatio) 15:18, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

This isn't a general Bible issue, but seems to be specific to the Codex Amiatinus, and perhaps specific to this 1854 edition. There is extensive front matter by the editor, and the answer might be present there. I did not spot an explanation on a once-through look, but my Latin may not be up to the task and the explanation might be only a few words. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 15:23, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

I've determined part of the answer: the parenthetical numbers correspond to the items listed in the summary outline preceding the book. Each book is prefaced by an outline of the contents of that book and the first number in each parenthetical pair is keyed to that outline. I'm not yet sure what the second parenthetical number corresponds to. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 20:57, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

I will do some transcrption on this particularly if there is a group of us working on it. I note there are a couple of attempts to start with a copy-paste of another Bible transcription project above. I wonder if that person would be interested. JimKillock (disputatio) 07:01, 22 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, many hands make light work. There are, however, a few things to work out in terms of style within this work. I have a little work to polish off at the English Wikisource before plunging in here, but I will try to figure out the points of style by this weekend. Most books are preceded by an outline of major points, which are numbered and keyed to specific points within the book. These will need a linking structure to make them work. However, It should be possible to proofread the text without this linking, and add that feature in later.

My intention is to begin by transcribing the Evangaelium secundum Lucam, a few of the Epistolae, and then begin tying the work into the English Wiktionary with quotations. After that, it will depend on what work remains and how many participants have joined in to help. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 01:25, 23 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

I am more than happy to contribute to this work (I can start with Matthew); also, I agree with EncycloPetey that stilistical details can be worked off in a second time, after a first proofread. As a general (and personal) rule, everything that requires to link pages, such as indexes or similiar, is usually compiled more easily after everithing else has been transcribed... --Barbaking (disputatio) 11:22, 23 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: Fair warning, this Tischendorf edition is only the New Testament. The Old Testament of the Codex Amiatinus was not published until the 20th century and most of it is still in copyright (the final volume of 18 was put out in the 1990s). If a complete Latin Bible is desired then the Sixto-Clementine Vulgate might be an obvious choice, since this was the standard (Catholic) Latin Bible from the end of the 16th up to the mid 20th century. Nizolan (disputatio) 23:49, 16 Maii 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I am aware that the scan is an incomplete text, but the Codex Amiaticus is the oldest extant Latin copy of the complete Christian Bible. So even if we cannot put all of the Codex up now, we can transcribe the New Testament and it will be a valuable resource. Right now Latin Wikisource does not seem to have a single book from the Vulgate Bible. The Codex Amiaticus scan is a clean and complete scan with good OCR and was thoroughly edited. It therefore makes a good choice for a first transcription. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 01:14, 17 Maii 2020 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: I mean the edition itself, not the scan. Tischendorf did not publish an Old Testament, so if we base our edition of the Vulgate on the Codex Amiaticus it'll necessarily be incomplete for the next 75 years or so for copyright reasons unless we work from the manuscript itself (which would be quite a feat). Not a problem to transcribe it anyway obviously but just wanted to give a heads-up given the reasoning above (since it won't help with references to the Latin Old Testament). Nizolan (disputatio) 11:46, 18 Maii 2020 (UTC)

@Nizolan: I see your point, but there is no rule against having multiple editions of a book, quite the opposite: i.e., we have several edition of Iuvenal's and Persius' saturae. We can always transcribe the Novum Testamentum (Codex Amiatinus) alongside the Vulgata Clementina and/or the Oxford edition of the Gospel and so on... besides, transcribing the whole Bible would also be quite a feat :), and one probably exceeding our "working force"; working on the Gospels is (maybe) something a little easier we can actually deal with... --Barbaking (disputatio) 11:56, 18 Maii 2020 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: @Barbaking: @Nizolan: There is a Bible on Vikifons, the Vulgata Clementina which I have been attempting to import from here for the past few months. Please feel free to work on it, as any help is always welcome, especially for the apocrypha section! As a sidenote, the Vulgata Sixtina is alson on Vikifons. Veverve (disputatio) 16:40, 20 Augusti 2020 (UTC)

Proposed restyling to Formula:Titulus

Hi everyone,

I wanted to propose some changes to Formula:Titulus, to allow the template manage the categoryzation of the books. Currently we have something like 2000+ uncategoryzed books, and even those that are not in this list usually lack the category Genera or/and the Categoria chronologica. I made some tests with Lua here, and produced a new sandboxed version of the template: Usor:Barbaking/Templatest. Some usage examples are in my user page and here. The layout of the template remains the same (which also means it is more or less retroactive), but it adds categories based on its parameters. Specifically:

• from the Scriptor parameter, it adds a category Categoria:Opera quae <scriptor> scripsit, i.e. Categoria:Opera quae Marcus Tullius Cicero scripsit; thus letting us categoryze the books by author
• from the Annus parameter, it add the category Saeculi x opera; this works, in all the tests I have done, both when the parameter is expressed as a year (Annus = 1754) and when expressed as a century (Annus=V saec. or similiar).
• it allows a new parameter, Genera, categoryzing by genre: Genera=historia, geographia will add the book in Categoria:Historia and Categoria:Geographia
• finally, if the parameter Liber is compiled with the link to an Index, it will add the category Categoria:Opera cum libro digitale; if not, it will search for the discussion page (where the Template:OperisInfo should be); if the page exists, adds Categoria:Opera cum fonte, if not, Categoria:Opera sine fonte

The template categoryzes only the books in ns0 without slashes / in the title, and not the subpages: Ab Urbe condita will have all the said categories, while Ab Urbe condita/liber I will not; those latter will be placed in a Categoria:Capita ex operibus collecting all the chapters.

If the Annus or the Genera parameters are void, the page will be respectively categorized in Saeculi incogniti opera and Opera sine generibus, thus allowing us to spot the problem and eventually fix it.

In short, in my opinion, this template provides a standard, automated categoryzation, thus improving the way we store, manage and find the books we have making and providing a useful tool to both the user and the reader.

Let me know what you think about all this; I am of course open to suggestons, objections and discussions. Vale, --Barbaking (disputatio) 13:59, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Hi there, I have a question: the Formula:Titulus template seems to be involved in the creation of title pages for PDF and epub exports. This being the case, it would be helpful if there was a way to specify a "cover image" for an ebook. This might either be used for the whole cover, or a part. At the moment, all covers look the same, with the Wikisource logo forming the cover. This should be present of course, but probably as the inlay first page rather than the cover, else the exports become hard to distinguish visually in an ebook collection. Just a thought, and maybe something to build in for future consideration. JimKillock (disputatio) 11:40, 21 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

@JimKillock: this is an excellent observation I have nevere tought of before. I do not know if or how it could be done, and I will certainly try to look into it, but it could well depend to the settings of the tool and in that case the only solution, I fear, is to open a ticket with WMF. Since we are talking about this, another idea: the Italian version of the template features on the top (random example) the buttons for the exports in various formats (via WMF labtools); this is also something we could add to our template too... (this, at least, is not a difficoult thing to do...) --Barbaking (disputatio) 12:42, 21 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

OK :) Let me know how we would open a ticket with WMF. The buttons / icons for export look like a great idea for additions. The ability to export to decent reader formats is a big part of why I am enthusiastic about this project and think it can be of great use for Latin readers / learners. JimKillock (disputatio) 17:57, 21 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Update: I added the "export" buttons (by simply importing the italian template); it seems to work :). You can see a test example in this version of De antiquissima Italorum sapientia. Now, I will try to understand how the export on WMF labtool works, and if we can fix it like @JimKillock: suggested, or if we will need to open a ticket --Barbaking (disputatio) 11:11, 23 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

This looks very helpful to me, thank you! JimKillock (disputatio) 16:12, 26 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

@JimKillock: ok, I've made some progress with the "cover" issue... in a way. turned out that adding <span id="ws-cover">something.djvu/number</span> could solve the problem, inserting in the exported file something.djvu/number as the cover page. I made a test here and it more or less works... but if I open the resuting pdf with Acrobat I get an "Insufficient data for image" error message, and the first page is blank. Opening the file with OpenOffice works well though, and I get as first page the image in Pagina:Ioannes Baptista a Vico - Opera latina tomus I - Mediolani, 1835.djvu/77, so it could be a problem with my version of Acrobat... if you or someone else could download the pdf (warning: clicking the link will start the download) and tell me what you see, we could understand were the problem lays. --Barbaking (disputatio) 08:41, 28 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Barbaking:, I get the same error with a PDF with Acrobat. Using Mac Preview, the image is missing, no error warning. On .epub it is ok, albeit the image is left aligned, which looks a little odd (it would be better centred by default I would suggest – I guess that is for the export devs tho!). JimKillock (disputatio) 07:45, 29 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Update, @Barbaking:: I applied your new header template to Ólim so I can access the PDF export easily, defined a cover page, and exported .epub and .pdf – the .epub again is fine, but the PDF has the same error. The PDF export is also very slow but I guess it has a lot more formatting work to do. JimKillock (disputatio) 08:11, 29 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

@JimKillock: I will try asking to the author of the tool, fr:Utilisateur:Tpt and/or open a request on GitHub, I don't think we can fix this issue from here. --Barbaking (disputatio) 11:48, 29 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

@Barbaking: Did you find time to raise this as a Github issue? JimKillock (disputatio) 12:19, 17 Iunii 2020 (UTC)

@JimKillock: Actually I was waiting for development since the matter of ebook exports has been discussed in the Community Tech initiative, and we could get a new, WMF-based tool (that appears to be under development) --Barbaking (disputatio) 14:23, 17 Iunii 2020 (UTC)

@[everyone] Since I have made all the tests I can think of, and while we try to solve the "cover" issue, I will now (try to) make the new template operational, upgrading the code of Template:Titulus with that in my sandbox. No doubt I will need to fix/create many categories, and we will get at least some errors somewhere, but I think the best way to test something is to put it into use and see what happens... Of course I will check the results and in a week or so I should have everything fixed. I will report here soon --Barbaking (disputatio) 12:13, 29 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Is there any way to add another parameter for the translator? Some works originally written in other languages are translated into Latin (such as the Vulgate Bible) and there is currently no means to identify or distinguish the translator of a work into Latin from its auctual author. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 20:26, 29 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: we can add a |Translator= parameter without problems; I will work on it ASAP --Barbaking (disputatio) 09:43, 30 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Nota marginalis left and right

Hi all, I have a text with margin notes on left and right; is there a way to accomodate this? Formula:Nota marginalis seems to want to do just right hand notes. JimKillock (disputatio) 19:01, 29 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Do you want the margin notes to bounce back and forth in the finished work? It would be preferable to have them consistently on one side in the final work. The margin notes only shift between left and right because the original is a printed book with recto and verso pages. The electronic copy here will not have such differences, so you might as well ignore them.

I can also say that side notes / margin notes have been a constant headache on the English Wikisource. We have never developed a good solution there, though many capable coders have tried. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 20:23, 29 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

In actual fact, in this edition, the pages have marginalia on both left and right on the same page at the same height of the page. Here are two consecutive pages:

Pagina:Annales monastici Vol IV.djvu/451

Pagina:Annales monastici Vol IV.djvu/452

that show the behaviour. It seems that the 'inside margin' notes refer to where in the original manuscript the text is found; the 'outside margin' is used to note dates, Kings and other general contextual information. Footnotes are a third category. But I appreciate it may be hard to reproduce the inner / outer notes in CSS. JimKillock (disputatio) 21:15, 29 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

There is a {{Left sidenote}}, but I cannot say how well it interacts with other formatting here. --EncycloPetey (disputatio) 22:40, 29 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

There is also a complementary {{Right sidenote}}; you can see these templates at work i.e. here --Barbaking (disputatio) 09:40, 30 Aprilis 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I will give these a go! JimKillock (disputatio) 09:16, 2 Maii 2020 (UTC)

Community Tech Launches Wikisource Improvement Initiative

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We hope you are all healthy and safe in these difficult times.

The Community Tech team has just launched a new initiative to improve Wikisource. We will be addressing five separate wishes, which came out of the 2020 Community Wishlist Survey, and we want you to be a part of the process! The projects include the following:

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• Insert attestation on Wiktionary using Wikisource as a corpus

For the first project, the team will focus on the #1 wish: improve ebook exports. We have created a project page, which includes an analysis of the ebook export process. We now invite everyone to visit the page and share their feedback on the project talk page. Please let us know what you think of our analysis; we want to hear from all of you! Furthermore, we hope that you will participate in the other Wikisource improvement projects, which we’ll address in the future. Thank you in advance and we look forward to reading your feedback on the ebook export improvement talk page!

-- IFried (WMF) (Product Manager, Community Tech)

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Interlinear (Hamiltonian) "Lives" by Nepos

I've just uploaded an OCR'ed and proof-read interlinear version of the "Lives" by Cornelius Nepos. The [original interlinear text] was created using the so-called ["Hamiltonian system"], in which the original Latin is re-ordered to fit with the normal ordering of the interlinear language (here English), and a word-for-word translation is provided. I was inspired to do this by [a post some time ago on /r/LatinLanguage]. I hope that this may be useful to Latin language learners (or to others wishing to create resources for Latin language users). The Wikisource documentation is unclear on where multilingual texts should go, or whether they should even be on Wikisource at all; I could find only [one other interlinear text] (on which I've modelled some of the formatting for the current one). Please let me know whether Latin Wikisource is a suitable location for hosting this resource; if so, I'll link it up from the Auctores page and publicize it. Any other comments or suggestions are very welcome. (Editing was done offline and pages uploaded via the API, so it's feasible for me to do whole-of-publication reformatting if required. For this same reason, I've not uploaded the page scan sources or individual page proof-reading, though this could perhaps be done programmatically if required.) -- Wewebber (disputatio) 06:07, 2 Iunii 2020‎ (UTC)

@Wewebber: I don't think there are guidelines about having the translated text alongside the latin one, but personally I think it may be appropriate, since the english text is in the original source (and the text formatting is quite good!). So, personally, I thank you for your work :) --Barbaking (disputatio) 07:10, 3 Iunii 2020 (UTC)

@Barbaking: Thanks, Barbaking! Will link up and publicize the transcription. --Wewebber (disputatio) 02:05, 8 Iunii 2020 (UTC)

Proposed restyling of Formula:Scriptor

Hi, it's me again (I promise this will be the last time for a while). I've been doing some tests with a new Module:Scriptor, to replace the code of Formula:Scriptor, the template we use for the Authors' pages. You can see the resulting template (with instructions) here, and an example of its use in Scriptor:Arnobius. As on most wikisource projects, the templates retrieves the informations, and expecially the dates of birth/death, and the links to other projects, from Wikidata, so it has less parameters than the old one (it could theoretically work with only the IndicisNomen parameter). It provides automated categorization by century, country, and occupations, adds the en:Authority control values, and also the image and a description if no other parameters are given; as a comparison this is how the page Scriptor:Arnobius was displayed with the old syntax. I think this is an improvement for both readers and users, since it is easier to compile (eliminates the need to manually find, and insert dates and categories for instance) and it gives more informations, expecially the authority control, following the examples of other wikisource projects, like the english, french and italian ones. It will require some work to update the old syntax, but I think I can manage to fix everyting in two or three days, if there is consensus for the implementation. Please let me know your opinions about this proposal; I am as always open to suggestions, objections and alternative proposals. Vale, --Barbaking (disputatio) 08:22, 3 Iunii 2020 (UTC)

This looks very good to me. JimKillock (disputatio) 12:20, 17 Iunii 2020 (UTC)

Project OpenLatin

Hi all, I am starting a side project to promote Open Latin and open licencing of Latin content. I want to help people understand why they should share their Latin content under open licenses, publish on Wikimedia platforms, and simply promote projects we complete or need help with. To this end I've started a website at OpenLatin.org and a Twitter account. At the moment the website promotes content I have primarly transcribed or assembled on Wikisource, or persuaded someone else to donate to the public, such as the Wikiversity Latin course. I would very much like to assemble a group of people willing to help, starting with a chatroom or something similar. I would be very willing to add more that others feel should be promoted, that is primarily their contribution. My medium term aim for the project is to use this to fundraise for content or tools, whether through grants or crowdfunding, but that is a way off yet. Let me know if you are interested in helping. if there is enough of us I will create some kind of chat group, whether WhatsApp, IRC, Riot, Slack or whatever suits. JimKillock (disputatio) 12:28, 17 Iunii 2020 (UTC)

Of editions and sources

Hello everyone,

there has been in my talk page a really interesting discussion between me, @Epìdosis: and @Mizardellorsa:, in which all the three of us agreed that we should pay more attention to the edition and to the source of the texts added here on Vicifons (the discussion is unfortunately in italian, I can provide a full translation though, if anyone asks for it).

Consequently, I updated (again! xD) the Template:Titulus, to include, display, and categorize by the parameters |Fons= and |Editio=, to explicit a) from where the text came from (direct link to the source in Fons=) and b) the edition of the text, which is of particular importance for Latin works since different editions could follow different authorities, resulting in substantial differences. As an example of the new stile of the template, you can see De brevitate vitae or Abhinc duos annos, while this is what the template looks like if these parameters are left blank.

The resulting categories are Categoria:Opera cum editione (if an edition is specified in |Editio=), Categoria:Opera sine editione (if it is not), Categoria:Opera cum fonte (if a source is specified in Fons=) and Categoria:Opera sine fonte (if it is not); for transcribed books, a fons is not needed, and the category is Categoria:Opera cum libro digitale. We could also, in the future, let the template "read" the link inserted as a source, and so distinguish between "good", trusted sources (like the Corpus corporum, Bibliotheca Augustana and so on) and dubious sources, like personal blogs or unverified websites (it happens!).

I am currently inserting in the template the sources we already have (previously added in the discussion pages), the following step will be to try to find sources for the (unfortunately many) works lacking it...

let me know if someone has objections, suggestions or alternative proposals; vale, --Barbaking (disputatio) 11:27, 2 Iulii 2020 (UTC)

Feedback on movement names

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There are a lot of conversations happening about the future of our movement names. We hope that you are part of these discussions and that your community is represented.

Since 16 June, the Foundation Brand Team has been running a survey in 7 languages about 3 naming options. There are also community members sharing concerns about renaming in a Community Open Letter.

Our goal in this call for feedback is to hear from across the community, so we encourage you to participate in the survey, the open letter, or both. The survey will go through 7 July in all timezones. Input from the survey and discussions will be analyzed and published on Meta-Wiki.

Thanks for thinking about the future of the movement, --The Brand Project team, 19:39, 2 Iulii 2020 (UTC)

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Announcing a new wiki project! Welcome, Abstract Wikipedia

Salvete omnes,

It is my honor to introduce Abstract Wikipedia, a new project that has been unanimously approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Abstract Wikipedia proposes a new way to generate baseline encyclopedic content in a multilingual fashion, allowing more contributors and more readers to share more knowledge in more languages. It is an approach that aims to make cross-lingual cooperation easier on our projects, increase the sustainability of our movement through expanding access to participation, improve the user experience for readers of all languages, and innovate in free knowledge by connecting some of the strengths of our movement to create something new.

This is our first new project in over seven years. Abstract Wikipedia was submitted as a project proposal by Denny Vrandečić in May 2020 ^[1] after years of preparation and research, leading to a detailed plan and lively discussions in the Wikimedia communities. We know that the energy and the creativity of the community often runs up against language barriers, and information that is available in one language may not make it to other language Wikipedias. Abstract Wikipedia intends to look and feel like a Wikipedia, but build on the powerful, language-independent conceptual models of Wikidata, with the goal of letting volunteers create and maintain Wikipedia articles across our polyglot Wikimedia world.

The project will allow volunteers to assemble the fundamentals of an article using words and entities from Wikidata. Because Wikidata uses conceptual models that are meant to be universal across languages, it should be possible to use and extend these building blocks of knowledge to create models for articles that also have universal value. Using code, volunteers will be able to translate these abstract “articles” into their own languages. If successful, this could eventually allow everyone to read about any topic in Wikidata in their own language.

As you can imagine, this work will require a lot of software development, and a lot of cooperation among Wikimedians. In order to make this effort possible, Denny will join the Foundation as a staff member in July and lead this initiative. You may know Denny as the creator of Wikidata, a long-time community member, a former staff member at Wikimedia Deutschland, and a former Trustee at the Wikimedia Foundation ^[2]. We are very excited that Denny will bring his skills and expertise to work on this project alongside the Foundation’s product, technology, and community liaison teams.

It is important to acknowledge that this is an experimental project, and that every Wikipedia community has different needs. This project may offer some communities great advantages. Other communities may engage less. Every language Wikipedia community will be free to choose and moderate whether or how they would use content from this project.

We are excited that this new wiki-project has the possibility to advance knowledge equity through increased access to knowledge. It also invites us to consider and engage with critical questions about how and by whom knowledge is constructed. We look forward to working in cooperation with the communities to think through these important questions.

There is much to do as we begin designing a plan for Abstract Wikipedia in close collaboration with our communities. I encourage you to get involved by going to the project page and joining the new mailing list ^[3]. We recognize that Abstract Wikipedia is ambitious, but we also recognize its potential. We invite you all to join us on a new, unexplored path.

Yours,

Katherine Maher (Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation)

1. Abstract Wikipedia
2. User:Denny
3. Abstract Wikipedia mailing list

Sent by m:User:Elitre (WMF) 20:13, 9 Iulii 2020 (UTC) - m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/July 2020 announcement

Purge needed?

Not sure what has happened here but we now seem to have a page with a lot of irrelevant content, can we purge it? JimKillock (disputatio) 08:46, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC)

found some errors with a lack of {{nowiki|{{nowiki|<ref></ref>}}}}, added. JimKillock (disputatio) 08:49, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC)

Technical Wishes: FileExporter and FileImporter become default features on all Wikis

The FileExporter and FileImporter will become a default features on all wikis until August 7, 2020. They are planned to help you to move files from your local wiki to Wikimedia Commons easier while keeping all original file information (Description, Source, Date, Author, View History) intact. Additionally, the move is documented in the files view history. How does it work?

Step 1: If you are an auto-confirmed user, you will see a link "Move file to Wikimedia Commons" on the local file page.

Step 2: When you click on this link, the FileImporter checks if the file can in fact be moved to Wikimedia Commons. These checks are performed based on the wiki's configuration file which is created and maintained by each local wiki community.

Step 3: If the file is compatible with Wikimedia Commons, you will be taken to an import page, at which you can update or add information regarding the file, such as the description. You can also add the 'Now Commons' template to the file on the local wiki by clicking the corresponding check box in the import form. Admins can delete the file from the local wiki by enabling the corresponding checkbox. By clicking on the 'Import' button at the end of the page, the file is imported to Wikimedia Commons.

If you want to know more about the FileImporter extension or the Technical Wishes Project, follow the links. --For the Technical Wishes Team:

Max Klemm (WMDE) 09:13, 6 Augusti 2020 (UTC)

Feedback requested: Ebook Export Improvement Project

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Hello, everyone!

I am pleased to announce that the Community Tech team at WMF has posted our August update on the Wikisource Ebook Export Improvement project! This project came out of our 2020 Community Wishlist Survey, and it was the #1 wish voted on by survey participants.

So, what does this mean? In short, we want your feedback! Now that we have posted the August update, we want to know what you think. The update includes findings from our community consultation, results from two separate analyses conducted by the team (on improving WSExport reliability & font rendering support), and proposed next steps. It is our hope that people can read our analysis, share their feedback, and engage in a conversation with us on the talk page. Your feedback will be invaluable, and it will help determine the next steps of the project.

Thank you to everyone who has participated in the consultation so far! It's been a joy to explore how we can improve the ebook export experience. Now, we look forward to reading a new round of feedback on the project talk page!

-- IFried (WMF) (Product Manager, Community Tech)

Sent by User:SGill (WMF) using MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 12:14, 17 Augusti 2020 (UTC)

nsPage and ns0 default width

It seems that nsPage has a width of about 40em, while ns0 has a default width of 33em. This can be disturbing, since it causes differences between content layout into nsPage and its transclusion.

A simple personal solution is, to add the code .pagetext {width:33em} into personal page [user page]/common.css, a general solution could be to change ns0 width to 40em. --Alex brollo (disputatio) 07:20, 21 Augusti 2020 (UTC)

Important: maintenance operation on September 1st

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The Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its secondary data centre. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic to the secondary data centre on Tuesday, September 1st 2020.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

• You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, September 1st. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 19:30 IST, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday September 2).
• If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

• Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
• There will be code freezes for the week of September 1st, 2020. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.

This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community.

Trizek (WMF) (talk) 13:49, 26 Augusti 2020 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in the conversation

Hello. Apologies for cross-posting, and that you may not be reading this message in your native language: translations of the following announcement may be available on Meta. Please help translate to your language. Thank you!

We are excited to share a draft of the Universal Code of Conduct, which the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees called for earlier this year, for your review and feedback. The discussion will be open until October 6, 2020.

The UCoC Drafting Committee wants to learn which parts of the draft would present challenges for you or your work. What is missing from this draft? What do you like, and what could be improved?

Please join the conversation and share this invitation with others who may be interested to join, too.

To reduce language barriers during the process, you are welcomed to translate this message and the Universal Code of Conduct/Draft review. You and your community may choose to provide your opinions/feedback using your local languages.

To learn more about the UCoC project, see the Universal Code of Conduct page, and the FAQ, on Meta.

Thanks in advance for your attention and contributions, The Trust and Safety team at Wikimedia Foundation, 17:55, 10 Septembris 2020 (UTC)

Wikisource Pagelist Widget: Ready to be enabled

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Hello everyone,

We are excited to announce that the Wikisource Pagelist widget is now available to be enabled on all Wikisources. Any interface admin on your wiki can enable it by using the instructions on the following page:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ProofreadPage/Pagelist_widget

In case, your wiki doesn’t have an interface admin, reach out to us on the ‘Help with enabling the widget on your wiki’ section of the project talk page and we will connect you with a global interface admin:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_Pagelist_Widget#Help_with_enabling_the_widget_on_your_wiki

You will need to hold a local discussion around what would be the labels for different page types in your language for the visual mode. (For example, ToC = ਤਤਕਰਾ in Punjabi, title = শিরোনাম in Bengali)

Feel free to also give us any feedback on the project talk page on Meta-Wiki as well.

Regards

Sohom Datta

Sent by Satdeep Gill (WMF) using MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 05:56, 15 Septembris 2020 (UTC)

Wikisource Pagelist Widget: Wikisource Meetup (29th September 2020)

Hello everyone,

We hope you are doing well!

We reached out to you a couple of weeks ago to share that Wikisource Pagelist Widget is now ready to be enabled to Wikisource. Since then, many language Wikisources have enabled the widget but many are yet to do so.

So, we have decided to organize a Wikisource Meetup to give a live demonstration on how to use the widget in both wikitext and visual modes. There will be some time for the participants to share their feedback and experience with the widget. We will also provide support in case some Wikisource communities are seeking help in enabling the widget.

The meetup will take place on 29 September 2020 at 9:30 AM UTC or 3 PM IST. Google Meet link for the meeting is: http://meet.google.com/khu-dfph-qsd

Looking forward to seeing the global Wikisource community connect amid these difficult times when physical meetings have not been taking place.

P.S. If you are planning to attend this meetup and are comfortable in sharing your email address then send us your confirmation in the form of a small email to sgill@wikimedia.org, this will help us in getting a sense of the number of people that are planning to show-up. We are aware that this time-zone is not convenient for everyone and more meetups can be organized in the future.

Regards

Sohom, Sam and Satdeep

Sent by Satdeep using MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 11:03, 24 Septembris 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of functions naming contest

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Hello. Please help pick a name for the new Wikimedia wiki project. This project will be a wiki where the community can work together on a library of functions. The community can create new functions, read about them, discuss them, and share them. Some of these functions will be used to help create language-independent Wikipedia articles that can be displayed in any language, as part of the Abstract Wikipedia project. But functions will also be usable in many other situations.

There will be two rounds of voting, each followed by legal review of candidates, with voting beginning on 29 September and 27 October. Our goal is to have a final project name selected on 8 December. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at meta-wiki. Thank you! --Quiddity (WMF)

21:13, 29 Septembris 2020 (UTC)

Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric

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Today the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees starts two calls for feedback. One is about changes to the Bylaws mainly to increase the Board size from 10 to 16 members. The other one is about a trustee candidate rubric to introduce new, more effective ways to evaluate new Board candidates. The Board welcomes your comments through 26 October. For more details, check the full announcement.

Thank you! Qgil-WMF (talk) 17:10, 7 Octobris 2020 (UTC)

Important: maintenance operation on October 27

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The Wikimedia Foundation tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, October 27 2020.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

• You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, October 27. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (14:00 WET, 15:00 CET, 10:00 EDT, 19:30 IST, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 03:00 NZDT on Wednesday October 28).
• If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

• Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
• There will be code freezes for the week of October 26, 2020. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.

This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens. Please share this information with your community.

-- Trizek (WMF) (talk) 17:11, 21 Octobris 2020 (UTC)

Archived 2019 content

I moved 2019 content to Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera X, hope that is ok! JimKillock (disputatio) 09:33, 2 Novembris 2020 (UTC)

Cross site Latin community?

Would there be any interest in creating a LA language community of some kind? It could be a chat forum and web pages somewhere for instance, and aim for some kind of gathering online at some point? This could bring together the different Wikimedia Latin projects and users. JimKillock (disputatio) 08:56, 3 Novembris 2020 (UTC)

If anyone wants, you can sign up to meta:Latin language User Group JimKillock (disputatio) 13:12, 29 Novembris 2020 (UTC)

Vicilibri Latin textbooks

Hi all,

You may be familiar with the Wikibooks project. There are a couple of Latin related texts there. There is also a moribund Latin Wikibooks project. I am hoping to port over some of the page layout tools from Vicifons to latin Wikibooks to make it better for ebook production; for this it seems I will need Administrator status. Details are here: wikibooks:la:Vicilibri:Porta_communis#Administrator_request - please do comment / volunteer your help if you feel so inclined. JimKillock (disputatio) 18:05, 4 Novembris 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of functions naming contest - Round 2

Hello. Reminder: Please help to choose the name for the new Wikimedia wiki project - the library of functions. The finalist vote starts today. The finalists for the name are: Wikicode, Wikicodex, Wikifunctions, Wikifusion, Wikilambda, Wikimedia Functions. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at Meta-wiki. Thank you! --Quiddity (WMF)

22:11, 5 Novembris 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021

The 2021 Community Wishlist Survey is now open! This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on 30 Novembris, or comment on other proposals to help make them better. The communities will vote on the proposals between 8 Decembris and 21 Decembris.

The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals!

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

18:09, 20 Novembris 2020 (UTC)